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[discordance]

I was enjoying the new map but i could see other people starting to gripe so it was right to change just soooo many other maps you could have picked hzza

[mode_seven]

Not sure what can actually be done about it.

It's a bit of a moot point as this is likely the final class specific update (unless they cycle round again, which I don't see happening), but my ideal solution would be a mod to restrict the joining of a class post update unless it is in your, say, top three most played. People could obviously reset their stats to work around but I imagine most would be loathe to do this.

[Hzza]

I switched to gpit as it had won the previous vote

[discordance]

ah, anyway to reduce its prominence on the voting list ? I tough it out for one or two rounds but when its coming up the 3rd time in an eveing i can't take it anymore.

[egg]

If anyone wants to switch maps please don't switch to those 2, i can deal with any other map

Sorry, the map rotation isn't built with you in mind, if you don't like it, then do as you did and leave and come back when its a map you like.

Another instance of same over and over again..... 3 new maps and they are not even allowed to finish.... instead admin wants gravelpit so we have gravelpit....

The map was changed to gpit because I was getting sick of the incesant bitching and moaning about the new map and people asking to change and I switched to gpit as it had won the previous vote; it wasn't a case of me wanting it. Also, in the few hours that I was on we played all 3 maps at least twice, all the way through to the end so I don't think its a case of not allowing the new maps to finish.

apologies I didnt realise GP was voted for tbh?.  All I heard was I'm changing to gravel pit, and then there it was.

And if that many people were griping why didnt they rtv?  they moaned enough to get voting enabled why not use it?  Instant map changes are crap imo especially when I was top and enjoying it, yes change map if the majority rule, but at least at the end of round... although that said round times seem to go on forever here as I have said previously lol

[egg]

Not sure what can actually be done about it.

It's a bit of a moot point as this is likely the final class specific update (unless they cycle round again, which I don't see happening), but my ideal solution would be a mod to restrict the joining of a class post update unless it is in your, say, top three most played. People could obviously reset their stats to work around but I imagine most would be loathe to do this.

^^ That ^^

According to my stats my main class is engi..... not managed to play it once tonight instead had to piss about as spy

[Teatime]

What is it with the whining, bitches?

Class Update! Temporary insanity. It will pass, as it always have.

Bad maps? Happens! Deal with it.
New maps confusing? True, we will have to learn our way around. Until then games will be less than perfect, in fact sometimes a bit of a grind. Let's talk about that in a week or two.

Also: 8 out of 10 times the presumably bad map came up as result of a vote. These days it's rare it's switched by an admin. Democracy sucks sometimes.

One thing the admins might take into consideration: A slightly larger list for maps to vote for. I saw that at NuBs which have (I think) 7 choices. Upside: More maps to vote from (d'oh). Downside: Due to votes spreading a lower number of players are deciding the new map.

[CruelCow]

Sooo... apparently if you're not connect to the steam cloud, you can play the game, get unlocks, you can get achievements BUT THEY DON'T FUCKING COUNT!

[egg]

What is it with the whining, bitches?

Class Update! Temporary insanity. It will pass, as it always have.

Bad maps? Happens! Deal with it.
New maps confusing? True, we will have to learn our way around. Until then games will be less than perfect, in fact sometimes a bit of a grind. Let's talk about that in a week or two.

Also: 8 out of 10 times the presumably bad map came up as result of a vote. These days it's rare it's switched by an admin. Democracy sucks sometimes.

One thing the admins might take into consideration: A slightly larger list for maps to vote for. I saw that at NuBs which have (I think) 7 choices. Upside: More maps to vote from (d'oh). Downside: Due to votes spreading a lower number of players are deciding the new map.

Whilst your right for the majority.... the better fix would be to increase the number of maps on the voting list, and increase the number of maps that they cannot be replayed for

[CruelCow]

Mini sentries are fun, the wrangler feels a bit overpowered on certain maps. Sentries can become nearly unkillable with added range.
New shotty also feels a bit too strong, I need to test it more.

[LtMama]

Perhaps. Saw quite a good voting system on a server a while back. Basically a map vote came up with like 6 maps on it, everyone voted, then the 2 that had the most votes came up again for a secondary vote to choose a final map. Does that sound better?

[Twiggeh]

Yes it does Mama. Pat on the head for you :3

[egg]

Perhaps. Saw quite a good voting system on a server a while back. Basically a map vote came up with like 6 maps on it, everyone voted, then the 2 that had the most votes came up again for a secondary vote to choose a final map. Does that sound better?

Interesting idea.  Would be good to test

for me its the lack of change of type of map rather than the maps itself.  Here is how id like to see it:

For examlple.  we always seem to play CP maps.  (not always but seems to be the majority)

I would like to see perhaps a voting system that has groups of maps like this

group1 5CP
fastlane
granary

group 2 PL
badwater
goldrush

group 3 ctf
doublecross
sawmill

group 4 attack/defend cp
dustbowl
gravelpit

group 5 koth
dont know koth maps lol but imagine 2 of em here

and then for each map change you vote from the group in rotation that way you always get a rotation of type of game.  So one type of map never follows another of the same type so even if a map comes up multiple times (3x granary for eg), its not compounded by the fact that all the other maps that have been played have been the same type (2x fastlane, 1x well, etc etc)

Yes not all maps played in one night are the same type but not everyone plays all night and can often get a sample of just one type in the time they spend.

[scroggage]

Perhaps. Saw quite a good voting system on a server a while back. Basically a map vote came up with like 6 maps on it, everyone voted, then the 2 that had the most votes came up again for a secondary vote to choose a final map. Does that sound better?

VOTE YES IN THE REFERENDUM NEXT YEAR!
>.>

AV could work for us too, yes.

[Vitalis]

tbh guys.
/thread.

Engie update out, discussion has been done.

(sorry too much non-related bitching :p)