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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2009, 12:37:18 PM »

Guilt, as you're a scientist, remember to wear glasses, even if you don't need them. They will make you look smarter and more valuable, which will make the negotiations easier.

(Also, still bring a gun, but possibly some prototype or something, that'll impress them even more).
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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2009, 01:28:11 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2009, 01:47:16 PM »

If this is a rather high paying affair, it might well be worth getting a proper lawyer to check over the contract (which you of course always need to get sent duplicates of before you sign). The salary part is one thing, but as others have said, working hours, holiday time, erroneous contract law ("We own you 24/7") all alter how much you should be reimbursed.
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2009, 01:53:00 PM »

(Also, still bring a gun, but possibly some prototype or something, that'll impress them even more).

Gordon Freeman didn't bring a gun and he turned out fine!
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2009, 02:02:25 PM »

If this is a rather high paying affair, it might well be worth getting a proper lawyer to check over the contract (which you of course always need to get sent duplicates of before you sign). The salary part is one thing, but as others have said, working hours, holiday time, erroneous contract law ("We own you 24/7") all alter how much you should be reimbursed.
Yes, very sensible. They should make an offer with terms and conditions because you should put a value on things such as having to work at a different site due to contractual obligations. An example would be if you had to travel regularly or there were conditions on shift work etc.

Good advice from Andrew there.

Don't forget termination clauses as well.. i.e. attempts to prevent you from working in the industry, non disclosure and notice period. Notice period can be a killer if you get a long one (I've had 3 months before and it was a PITA when switching job ... definite thing to look out for and hard to turn down for the right money).
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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2009, 03:02:58 PM »

(Also, still bring a gun, but possibly some prototype or something, that'll impress them even more).

Gordon Freeman didn't bring a gun and he turned out fine!

And then he proceeded to mess up a basic testing procedure messing up the entire planet in the process, which also cost him his dayjob. At least he got a couple of prototype weapons during his adventures, too bad he indirectly killed everyone he could've shown them to.

P.S. He did wear glasses though!
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2009, 03:06:08 PM »

Not sure bringing a gun would've changed any of that! Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2009, 03:08:22 PM »

And then he proceeded to mess up a basic testing procedure messing up the entire planet in the process, which also costed him his dayjob. At least he got a couple of prototype weapons during his adventures, too bad he indirectly killed everyone he could've shown them to.

to be fair the ripping holes in reality and killing loads of people bit wasn't really his fault. i mean if a hyper-powered, trans-dimensional being just happened to choose you as his puppet then there really is very little you can do about it.

also along the same lines i would be far happier carrying a crowbar around with me, its so multi-purpose
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2009, 03:10:16 PM »

Well we don't know how much he was paid at Black Mesa, do we? He was probably just not motivated enough at his job, thus his sloppy cart pushing skills. A gun would certainly change that.

Edit: Oh, about G-Man... when I first played HL1 I hardly spoke any english and I had the english version of the game. I didn't understand a word that guy with the briefcase was saying and thought the ending was horrible because of that. For me the game ends at the very moment you beat Nihalanth or whatever the name was.

I also think it was way cheaper for Gordon to pay some random homeless guy to buy a suit and a briefcase and pose like some kind of a mastermind behind it, than to explain how his own incompetence destroyed the earth.

Should've bring a gun.
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2009, 03:13:29 PM »

Well we don't know how much he was paid at Black Mesa, do we? He was probably just not motivated enough at his job, thus his sloppy cart pushing skills. A gun would certainly change that.

i think i'll go for the pre-determinism slant, the g-man made his salary poor simply to get him to push the trolley into the lightening thingy badly and give us an opportunity to hit things with a big red crowbar. so really he couldn't have negotiated a decent pay cheque with or without a gun.
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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2009, 03:19:15 PM »

But what about glasses!? Anyway Guilt, if you see a guy with a briefcase when negotiating run for your life.
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2009, 03:21:31 PM »

Whats this talk of you failing at a derail Power? Seems to have worked ok in my eyes!
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2009, 03:25:40 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2009, 03:28:22 PM »

Whats this talk of you failing at a derail Power? Seems to have worked ok in my eyes!

It's my third try and the real advice has been given on multiple occasions by people smarter (and probably also better paid) than me.
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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2009, 03:30:37 PM »

Umm... had a lot of jobs with dodgy employers.

Actually my job title at the moment is Trade Sales Manager or Oi You! but I did consider Minion #1.  
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