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« on: September 29, 2009, 04:22:22 PM »

After a recent endeavor that went quite badly for me (I'm still trying to sort it) that could have been sorted by flashing my BIOS, I thought I would explain what it does, and why it's important for you to keep up to date with it.

Before I start, I should tell you that with most motherboards, flashing your bios has a small chance of bricking it.. most manufactures warranties cover this though as it's usually in the manual, but read it to make sure first.

BIOS stands for Basic Input/Output System. Think of it as the operating system for your motherboard. It tells your motherboard what to do with all the bells and whistles that are fixed to it. (like the PCI slots, the CPU, the RAM, the GPU) and your OS interacts with it in order to make it all work. It's not just motherboards that have a BIOS either. Most of your cards and parts will have one. For example, your graphics card has one because it needs to know what clock speeds, memory speeds and timings to run at. All the BIOS files in the parts on your computer all interact to create the basic building blocks for Windows (or Linux/OSX ect) to work with. the BIOS on a mac isn't accessible and is unique in the way you can only install OSX on a mac because of the BIOS file.

Most motherboards come with the first revision of the BIOS file, meaning sometimes they are quite buggy and need some new code or revised code added to make them more stable and perform better. This is why it is worth updating BIOS files. For example: when I first got my old ASUS Maximus Extreme X38 motherboard, it didn't have support to use the latest 45nm Quad CPUs on the market, nor did it accept the fast brand of RAM that I owned. So I updated the BIOS for me to be able to use my good kit. Once I had, it worked but it was slow and buggy causing crashes and low performance compared to others with different motherboards. I waited a while and a newer BIOS file became available so I flashed again and it improved performance in games by around 10% +/-. It's not just the CPU and RAM that gets a boost either. The X48 and X38 north bridge motherboards for example. Most of them couldnt handle Quadfire out of the box due to a poor Base BIOS file released by Intel meaning any new X38 or X48 motherboard couldn't do what it was supposed to be able to do. Not only this, you couldn't have a RAID setup if you have dual Crossfire. After numerous updates, this was fixed but was poor. Now it works very well and performance in some respects is as good or better than X58/i7 setups.

So, check your motherboards manufacturers website for any BIOS updates that may be available. There is usually an update tutorial in either your manual or online, so find it and see if you are confident enough to do it. You will most likely see some increase in performance and stability. Just make sure to check your warranty first to make sure you're covered, if not you may break your warranty conditions. You have been warned that you may brick your motherboard, but it isn't that likely. I flash my motherboards BIOS a lot and I have never bricked one.

Think to yourself, I update windows and see a difference sometimes, why not my motherboard where it's more likely to see a performance increase?
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2009, 04:59:38 PM »

Applauded. Off to check now.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2009, 06:10:08 PM »

I think there is generally a feeling of dread associated with bios flashing, which harkens back to older times when it was remarkably easy to pooch the flash and turn ur motherboard into scrap. These days however, most manufacturers have created programmes to make the process simple and safe (backing up the old file and reapplying this older 1 if the update doesn't succeed). ASUS is great for this having 3 or 4 different methods for doing a bios update, even 1 u can do from ur OS.

I keep mine uptodate as a matter of course and as Chaos has said, u can often reap the benefits.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2009, 06:48:25 PM »

aye i once screwed up flashing my router (family member reset it because no internet!). thankfully netgear had a program for recovering from that. Oh and theres sometimes multi-region bioses for region restricted hardware sometimes legal updates sometimes not.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2009, 06:52:19 PM »

Don't fix what ain't broke yo!

I am quite neurotic by nature and this is one thing that makes me curl into a little ball and rock myself to sleep.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2009, 03:29:57 PM »

Don't fix what ain't broke yo!
Beat me to it mate. Most manufacturers don't advise a BIOS flash unless a particular hardware issue persists. Mate.

When I built my current PC, I installed everything (all working fine) then had an updating splurge, drivers, software, OS etc.. all working fine. Then, the Update train having gained much speed by now, I thought I may as well flash the BIOS too. Which completely buggered the PC.
It was a normal BIOS release, supposedly fixing some Vista boot issues (not that I'd had any) and it made the whole PC run incredibly slowly. At first I didn't think it was the new BIOS doing it so I mucked about with msconfig and software uninstalls/reinstalls (which took ages, the PC running slower than an impaled tortoise) only to realise the BIOS was doing it. Luckily, I kept a backup of the old one, so I flashed it back and everything was instantly solved, back to a lovely, smooth-running (at the time) high-end PC.

Later in its life I flashed the BIOS to install some better RAM, which worked fine.

So take my advice, younglings! Only update BIOS if you need to for a specific purpose! Mates!
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2009, 05:58:02 PM »

Agree with scroggage n basingstoked.....

Although BIOS flashing (and other hardware) may add some beneficial extras, I wouldn't recommend it unless you have a particular issue which needs addressing.

Firmwares hardly ever improve performance specifically.  They will only add bug fixes, and extra features.  If you have no problems, and it does everything you need it to, then leave it as is.....

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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2009, 06:32:21 PM »

Only update if you've backed up and are prepared to reinstall. Take no prisoners, don't trust the BIOS for nothing!

Luckily nowadays it does have reset things and BIOS-backups and so forth, but older machines don't.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2009, 08:57:56 PM »

Well.. After switching out motherboards from a Rampage Extreme x48 to a Foxconn Blackops x48 ( Cheesy ) my q9650 wasnt recognised by the BIOS. Meaning it wouldn't even post! Took it to my grandads so I could use his q6600 and flashed the BIOS to the latest one (after finding out which is most stable ofc) and it worked! Now I have my computer back up and running (kinda.. need to install Vista again ect.. wont take long)

And yes, my grandad has a q6600.. he's that pimpin
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2009, 03:26:11 PM »

My mum is happy with a 2.8Ghz P4 with 512Mb RAM, not that I gave her a choice  Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2009, 07:26:10 PM »

I don't think Jordan gave his Grandad a choice either Trev Wink
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