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« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2012, 11:18:35 PM »

WHAT TOWNS WAS ON THERE AND I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE.

Oh well, the three (including Towns now!) that I wanted got through (Project Zomboid and Heroes and Generals for those playing at home).
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« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2012, 11:46:34 AM »

borp gorp why doesn't gaben just donate money to charity himself every time someone submits something to greenlight? Then people wouldn't submit stupid things (wouldn't want to bankrupt gaben and delay "ricochet 2" further lol) but also wouldn't have to pay the fee which just makes steam a walled garden like ios or starforce?
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« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2012, 11:55:48 AM »

I don't see that paying a fee is making it a closed system. If someone really wants their game to be greenlighted then they will find a way to get the money for the fee (either from themselves or asking friends/family/people interested in the game) but once they've paid it - it's open.

People who want to spam the greenlight are much less likely to do so when there's a fee there (and the fee is about right to stop that - any lower and people would just do it jokingly).

The other option to stop the spam is to have moderators (and or the public) vet/approve the submissions - which then *does* make it a closed system as you're essentially letting a person (or people) decide whether it should be on Steam. If someone posted HL3 to greenlight as a joke then of course it would get a shitton of votes but it still wouldn't be an authentic submission.

If you don't like the fee as a developer, advertise/sell your game elsewhere until you get the money.

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the barrier to entry should be making a product and selling it. you know capitalism. the fee is just a dumb extra requirement. if someone goes to the trouble of making something dumb, and other people buy it who are you to judge?

Because I want to see games in Greenlight that I genuinely might be interested in playing. So I expect to see a certain level of quality in what's there. I don't want greenlight to be flooded with fictional and/or low-quality submissions.
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« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2012, 12:25:40 PM »

I forgot to mention it should not be a place to pitch things, pitching is dumb. Games should be on sale in an appstore, and it should be a free for all mess. If they make a lot of sales they graduate to the real store and you know they are good.

If they need to pitch they should be begging on kickstarter not greenlight. Or steam should have a pitch area people can spam with garbage to their hearts content, either way completed games or at least prototyped games should be recognised and separated from dumb pitches. The fee doesn't provide that at all because rich trolls can still submit fake pitches atm.
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« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2012, 12:46:57 PM »

"I can't be arsed giving $100 (£62~) to charity so my game/idea can be exposed to the millions of Steam users out there. I'll probably spend AT LEAST that much money gathering the software, hardware and other bills to produce this game but still..."

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« Reply #50 on: November 23, 2012, 01:09:23 PM »

For someone producing smaller prototypes by themselves and not a huge indie game that isn't really an indie game because it has an obscene budget (braid etc) that is a lot of money to hand over just to access greenlight. £62 would be fair if you could immediately begin sales in a low-quality greenlight store area, but its a door fee to a process that takes quite a number of weeks and can be shat on by trolls. Apple walk the line of acceptability, $100 to get on ios and pass a small batch of their own cert requirements is the limit of what is ok for an entry fee, getting on ios is equivalent in the mobile space to getting on steam, but for your money you are making sales within a few days at most.
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« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2012, 04:15:43 PM »

People who want to spam the greenlight are much less likely to do so when there's a fee there (and the fee is about right to stop that - any lower and people would just do it jokingly).

The other option to stop the spam is to have moderators (and or the public) vet/approve the submissions - which then *does* make it a closed system as you're essentially letting a person (or people) decide whether it should be on Steam. If someone posted HL3 to greenlight as a joke then of course it would get a shitton of votes but it still wouldn't be an authentic submission.

You get community-banned if you post bogus items. Bogus entries died down as soon as people realized that.
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« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2013, 10:23:30 PM »

RIP greenlight, not taken sewn enuf. (Gabe was talking yesterday about selling anything and everything in steam down to individual textures, ofc if he plans on having greenlight for textures he can burn in hell).
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