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[Zarf]

class limit of 2 on everything tbh

LOL.. hard to do on a server with 24 let alone 26 slots? LOL

Not really sure what you're getting at here - 2 teams * 9 classes * 2 slots = 36 players max, which is more than enough.
It's annoying when you can't play your first choice class, but I think 2 slot limits would lead to more fun games.

[Nineblade]

Don't they call this the NotSoHighlander (there can be only two)

[discordance]

its just engies everywhere

mostly fail engies but its still a couple players wasted on trying for dumb achievements. most don't help (but at least they don't just sit there anymore either)

pls 2 engy limit

The fail engies on both sides balance this out

3 is ideal, and I havn't actually seen any situations of uber turtle. So why bother being more restrictive, 2 on some maps is going to make defence difficult.

[Hzza]

The fail engies on defence are marginally more useful then those on attack, just through dumb luck.

[scroggage]

At the moment, in the first few days of the update, all engies are really... REALLY annoying, don't contribute to team play at all and generally make TF2 less enjoyable.

Attack on Payload maps at the moment *always* has 3 engies, and because of this can never win.

[Teatime]

Reluctantly yes.
Just don't whine at me when I'm taking a slot and sit on it longer than I would usually do

But I would advice to revisit that decision in a couple of weeks. Though for most situations 2 engies are enough I still enjoy being a third engy to help setup, then switch to another class.

mostly fail engies

Although that's a trend I'm witnessing for several weeks now.

[Brahms]

They balance out into a stalemate at best, surely.

[Teatime]

They balance out into a stalemate at best, surely.

That reminds me of the bots: If you let them play KOTH by themselves every so often you will find an engineer of each team has built a sg on either side of the CP and none of the other bots dare to approach the point.

[egg]

At the moment, in the first few days of the update, all engies are really... REALLY annoying, don't contribute to team play at all and generally make TF2 less enjoyable.

Attack on Payload maps at the moment *always* has 3 engies, and because of this can never win.

AFTER PLAYING A LITTLE WHILE THIS^^^^

Just limit it to 0 until the storm has passed 

There are too many crap engis out there grabbing the limited slots and waisting the fucking class anyway.

They either cant defend for shit, not putting teles down, or basically teaming up together all in one place.  And I'm not moaning at WDG server in any way, this is my perception across a number of servers. /RANT

Can we set it so there are no class limits, but if your a crap engi you get kicked? lmao

[claws]

It's annoying when you can't play your first choice class, but I think 2 slot limits would lead to more fun games.

The problem is with 2 is that the classes aren't equally useful in numbers. You get a lot of people who only play soldier/demo/medic (for example), and if there are already 2 of those, you end up with a 2nd useless sniper or something because they can't play the class that would help the team. For me it's more than annoying, it's a bit counter-productive.

[egg]

It's annoying when you can't play your first choice class, but I think 2 slot limits would lead to more fun games.

The problem is with 2 is that the classes aren't equally useful in numbers. You get a lot of people who only play soldier/demo/medic (for example), and if there are already 2 of those, you end up with a 2nd useless sniper or something because they can't play the class that would help the team. For me it's more than annoying, it's a bit counter-productive.

+1

edit: i agree with claws, if your playing the game to win then this will be frustrating.  But if everyone is playing for 'fun' or lols only then it would be interesting.  however the server would empty imo

[CruelCow]

So, I got 12 achievements but not a single weapon unlock

[Officer Dibble]

I noticed a couple of times when a third engy would have been quite useful, but overall a good move for the first few days of the update.

[Lazzars]

The problem is with 2 is that the classes aren't equally useful in numbers. You get a lot of people who only play soldier/demo/medic (for example), and if there are already 2 of those, you end up with a 2nd useless sniper or something because they can't play the class that would help the team. For me it's more than annoying, it's a bit counter-productive.

was playing scout earlier for this exact reason and i am a very fail scout, didn't help the team at all

[Junta]

It's annoying when you can't play your first choice class, but I think 2 slot limits would lead to more fun games.

The problem is with 2 is that the classes aren't equally useful in numbers. You get a lot of people who only play soldier/demo/medic (for example), and if there are already 2 of those, you end up with a 2nd useless sniper or something because they can't play the class that would help the team. For me it's more than annoying, it's a bit counter-productive.

This is exactly my point. If there are too many engineers, penalise them but don't take away other valid choices from the team players.

The new engineer offence actually means more are needed on defence tbh. 3 sounds about right to me.