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« Reply #90 on: April 06, 2010, 06:32:02 PM »

Did I say it was for gaming? I was just suggesting it to POTENTIAL pirateers for download purposes

I never assumed that you did. I was just looking for an excuse to geek out. I'm having one of *those* days.
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« Reply #91 on: April 06, 2010, 06:44:21 PM »

Weekdays?
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« Reply #92 on: April 07, 2010, 09:58:14 AM »

(Is it sad that I actually enjoyed that?)

Yes it is, but look at the bright side. When the earth will be shattered to pieces due to some weird experiment, you will be among the people who will be rescued and launched into space to search for new home, because only people who give a damn about stuff like that are allowed to push buttons on space ships.
Sammy.. with his own spaceship AND a button. *wailing Scottish voice* We're all doooomed!

Plus, I bet his spaceship will be full of young, innocent women....and all the kids will look like Sammy (*repeat in wailing Scottish voice* We're all doooomed!)
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« Reply #93 on: April 07, 2010, 11:28:40 AM »

and all the kids will look like Sammy
*repeat in wailing Scottish voice* THEY're all doooomed!!!
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« Reply #94 on: April 07, 2010, 01:12:35 PM »

http://doomd.ytmnd.com/
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« Reply #95 on: April 07, 2010, 01:45:11 PM »

I received a full on letter from the house of commons this week which goes as follows:

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Dear Mr Sharp,

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Well damn. I guess your MP is Conservative? I got an almost identical letter from my MP.

Also, I hate the music industry.
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« Reply #96 on: April 07, 2010, 01:56:43 PM »

UGGGH.
Why are we ruled by a bunch of corrupt idiots? WHY?
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« Reply #97 on: April 07, 2010, 01:58:38 PM »

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« Reply #98 on: April 07, 2010, 05:58:55 PM »

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« Reply #99 on: April 08, 2010, 12:12:48 AM »

Man, I got the exact same letter as Deadly and Dibble. I actually thought Alistair Burt had taken the time to look into the issue especially since it took him a week to get back to me. Still, at least some MPs are standing up for the reported 20,000 people who have emailed their MPs about the bill.
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« Reply #100 on: April 08, 2010, 02:31:17 AM »

/sigh
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/apr/08/digital-economy-bill-passes-third-reading

Government has pushed the pill through washup (a process intended for non-contentious issues), meaning it's been passed with almost no scrutiny (less than 2 hours of debate) and a 3% attendance from our MPs.
Fucking disgraceful.
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« Reply #101 on: April 08, 2010, 03:00:19 AM »

I seriously cannot believe what I just read.

Lots of debate under the article.. more than what happened in parliament from what I gather
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« Reply #102 on: April 08, 2010, 11:53:14 AM »

I just got a reply (inb4lol@McTaggart)

Quote from:  Fiona Mactaggart
Hello,
 
Many constituents contacted me about the Digital Economy Bill and I spoke very strongly against this in Parliament yesterday: I thought you might like to see the Hansard report below.
 
8.14 pm
Fiona Mactaggart (Slough) (Lab): In my maiden speech, I spoke about the human right to read, because it seemed to me that access to the printed word ought to be treated as a human right. One of the interesting aspects of the debate about the internet is the growing recognition that in exactly the same way, because it gives access to information, we should treat the right to access to the internet as a human right, and that if we recognise it as such, we will create a better, more equal, more informed, more educated, better connected society.

I represent a town that generates a huge amount of wealth in the creative industries, and I am very concerned to ensure that creative individuals are properly rewarded for their talent and their contribution. The Secretary of State referred to the growth of the creative industries in the UK compared with that in other countries over the past decade. I was proud to act as Parliamentary Private Secretary to the first ever Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport who, I believe, played a critical role in recognising the strength of the creative industries.

We are about to make a mistake, not because of mala fides or bad faith on the part of the Government or the Opposition, but in the way that Parliament often makes its biggest mistakes, which is when all parties agree. In those circumstances, we take short cuts, make mistakes for good reasons-in this case, to protect creative professionals-and end up with bad laws. Many of us can quote examples of bad laws that have been passed. Sometimes they are bad in their execution-the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 is frequently cited-and sometimes they are bad because, even though we keep trying to get the legislation right, we do not succeed, even though it is right in theory, such as making fathers pay properly for their children. I do not know why I still have so many such cases turning up at my advice surgery, but I know I am not alone in that regard.

The parts of the Bill which are designed to protect copyright on the internet, to prevent file sharing and so on are hugely at risk of going down that road. I was rather entertained by the comments of the hon. Member for Bath (Mr. Foster) who, at one point, drafted an amendment and within a few hours was campaigning against said amendment. That illustrated the point very well, because he was trying to deal with what he saw as a wrong. It turned out that that was not very popular in his party and the amendment did not do what he wanted it to do, so he tried to amend it again. That is what the Committee stage of a Bill is for.

I am deeply concerned that what we are about- [ Interruption. ] The hon. Member for Bath might agree, but he will be part of the Front-Bench conspiracy that makes us end up with an unamended Bill and without the scrutiny that we need. This Parliament has shown itself to be utterly feeble in so many ways, and in our dying days we really should not continue to be utterly feeble.

Mr. Don Foster: Will the hon. Lady give way?

Fiona Mactaggart: I shall give way-although the hon. Gentleman did not give way to me.
Mr. Foster: I gave way to Members on numerous occasions, and I am therefore particularly grateful to the hon. Lady for giving way. May I make it absolutely clear that if clause 18 remains in the Bill, we will vote against the Bill on Third Reading? I do not think anything could be clearer than that.

Fiona Mactaggart: The hon. Gentleman has an advantage over me, as does BT, because they have seen a new version of that clause, but I have been to the Vote Office and I am not aware of what the clause says. I speak as a parliamentarian, within hours of the Bill's Committee stage, and I am unable to see that new version, so I do not know what is going to be proposed. He might well know, but I do not. I went to the Vote Office to ask for a copy, as is usual for a Back Bencher, and I spent quite a long time standing there, but there is a simple reason why the Vote Office cannot provide me with one: we have not yet given the Bill a Second Reading, and the Vote Office does not provide amendments to a Bill until it has had its Second Reading.
 
Right now our debate is closer to that which we would expect in Committee. People are focusing on little bits of the Bill and talking about potential amendments; they are not talking about the principles, because interestingly the pretty much shared view-with some tensions-is that we need to address certain principles. I found myself, scarily for the second time in two weeks, strongly agreeing with the right hon. Member for Wokingham (Mr. Redwood)-not a man with whom I have frequently agreed. However, his point is that sharing can sometimes enhance understanding and knowledge.

I discovered the work of Christopher Brookmyre because Waterstone's published some free chapters of his books. I read them and then bought all his books, and that is not unusual. I was completely unaware of "Ashes to Ashes" and Gene Hunt, so when I saw the advertisement that everyone was going on about I had no idea why it was clever because I had never watched that programme. However, one thing about shared intellectual property is that it can create a market for that property, and I am frightened that the Bill does not address that issue with enough subtlety. We are not creating the opportunities to make the most of the internet and commercial exploitation. As I understand copyright law, it bites not when somebody copies a chapter of a book for their own interest, or borrows a book from a friend, but when someone tries to make a profit out of somebody else's intellectual property. That has traditionally been the area in which copyright law bites.

On the Bill's approach to that issue, there will be mums throughout the country running internet micro-businesses, booking nannies or finding cleaners, for example, and I am anxious that if their sons illegally file share, those mums will end up having their businesses closed down. The parliamentary scrutiny process is designed to eliminate such risky consequences, but I predict that unless we properly scrutinise this legislation such businesses throughout the country will be closed down. The hon. Member for Bath said, "Is it all right if it is a special super-scrutiny system that has to be amended?" and so on. I have not seen one of those systems. We should do more through secondary legislation, but he and I have sat on secondary legislation Committees and they are not places where scrutiny occurs; they are another example of pathetic oversight by Parliament.
 
I said earlier that this Parliament has let itself down. If we allow this Bill to go through in this way, with a Second Reading after the election has been called, we will demonstrate that the public are right to think that we are pretty pointless, and that we do not have the courage of our convictions. Every single Member will demonstrate it. Every single Member who argued for parliamentary reform-I see some present, including the hon. Member for Bath-will shame themselves if they consent to this process. However important the Bill is, it will be just as easy for a new Government to say, "We will put in place these building blocks" if they are so essential. It is just not acceptable for the Opposition Front Benchers to say, "Whoops! If it doesn't work, we'll come back with something a month later." They are actually saying, "We're not prepared to do our job."

However, I am prepared to do my job. I do not believe that this is the right way to proceed, and unless the Minister says in summing up something utterly compelling about how those issues will be dealt with, I will not be able to find it in me to support the Bill."
 
 
I fear however that it is not going to work, because the Conservative, Liberal and Labour front benches have ganged up and all agree.  However the slow implementation timetable means that there will be a chance in the new Parliament to unpick the damage.
 
If re-elected I plan to do that.
 
Yours ever
 
Fiona Mactaggart

tl;dr, we're fucked, but it might take some time...
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« Reply #103 on: April 08, 2010, 12:00:59 PM »

lol

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On the Bill's approach to that issue, there will be mums throughout the country running internet micro-businesses, booking nannies or finding cleaners, for example, and I am anxious that if their sons illegally file share, those mums will end up having their businesses closed down.

She seems decent, but a little out there with her example?
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« Reply #104 on: April 08, 2010, 12:03:11 PM »

lol

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On the Bill's approach to that issue, there will be mums throughout the country running internet micro-businesses, booking nannies or finding cleaners, for example, and I am anxious that if their sons illegally file share, those mums will end up having their businesses closed down.

She seems decent, but a little out there with her example?
To put it another way, my dad runs his business from home, mostly online. If my sister got busted for filesharing and lost the house its internet, he'd be fucked. Doesn't seem that far fetched to me...
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