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[discordance]

Need some other custom maps on there, and some setup nights to play on it properly.

Don't even get me started on this. Getting people to chose a map and turn up to play it has proven to be like pulling teeth!

Bring your own custom night ? Someone gets randomly selected and they get to choose the custom to play. Or just get a big map list and put it on rotation and people can switch back to server 1 if a map they really hate comes up

[Teatime]

the question is 'do we have enough community to maintain 2 full servers', and the answer is probably 'no'.

I think this answer might be premature.
Yesterday we had trouble to fill server 1. Some days ago we had 44 players on both servers and some fluctuation. And you don't even know how many people might try and don't get in.

People stick around because they like playing *together*. We've tried to divide things up before and I don't think it's worked very well, we just ended up with vaguely unsatisfactory games on two servers.

If I'm not mistaken we've tried *once* to have FF being on both servers (and yes, that was not very satisfactory) and I think one other time where it happened more or less accidently.

The stats geek in me finds the idea of combining two servers into one ranking horrible(!). Stats on #2 as well might bring in more people, but personally I feel it's a bit premature. Disclaimer : I don't care about my stats anyway.

You may not care about your stats, but I think other people do. And playing on #2 instead of #1 means no points for the stats, so this might keep them from playing there.
Don't get me wrong: I don't suggest that because I think stats are a great thing; I'm just examining people's motivation: To join, or not to join, that is the question ...  

People stick around because they like playing *together*. We've tried to divide things up before and I don't think it's worked very well, we just ended up with vaguely unsatisfactory games on two servers.

and this

By now I thought we had more than 26 people who like to play with each other (and more being not just 2 or 3). At least it appears to me that way, and the fact that almost every evening #1 is full does at least not disprove me.

But perhaps I should take the hint and shut up now.

[CruelCow]

Smote for using tiny unreadable font.

[TheBeau]

So three suggestions for #2:
- Reduce the max number to 18
- Do a PUG Event once a week (sundays?)

Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

[Teh Fluff]

Just a thought but what about splitting the modes across the servers?

Server #1: CFT & Payload
Server #2: CP & Koth

I'll get my coat....

[Hzza]

Just a thought but what about splitting the modes across the servers?

Server #1: CP & Payload
Server #2: CTF & Koth

I'll get my coat....

Phixed.

Something more like that would appeal to me fo' sho.

[Lister]

I have a feeling that would make things worse if anything!

But some good ideas, especially the idea of having the PUG event on server 2

[claws]

Replying to Tea in one block before I end up in quote confusion hell

Oh, I agree we often have more than #1 can hold, but am yet to be convinced that we have enough to fill 2 servers, which is where I think our main point of 'disagreement' is. More importantly, I don't believe we have enough to fill 2 servers while keeping up the quality of the games.

I don't remember how many times we tried sharing with #2 (I thought it was a couple, at least), but I didn't think it worked, and it wasn't so long ago. For me, games that 'work' aren't just about the skill level - you need some good teamwork, people who are tactically aware, and of course the banter and cat noises and such. I remember people switching back and forth between #2 and #1 when bad maps came on, or just to find a better team, and it was fragmented and not really ... fun.

The idea of using #2 more/as a custom map server/etc comes around quite frequently, but in my experience every time we've tried it, it's not been a success. Which isn't to say I'm totally against it, but that's why I might come across as quite negative on this.

At some point we might naturally be big enough to fill two servers, and I think at that point it'll just 'happen', rather than trying to force the situation.

[CruelCow]

I got a great idea how to get more people on #2: Remove the password!

[Hzza]

I got a great idea how to get more people on #2: Remove the password!

We've got a practice session tonight, hence the password .

[scroggage]

If the general consensus is that it's not a big issue that #2 isn't used so much for pub play then I don't think it's so bad that it's empty quite a bit.

However... if there are certain times when it's not being used, a 6v6 PUG thing would be *fantastic* in my opinion. I think it was mentioned in another thread that there are some regs who like to dabble in competitive play... I wonder if we could get enough to do a WDG&regs pickup match say every week or something?

Perhaps whack a sign-up thread on the forum each week, then the first 12 sign ups form teams, decide maps then shoot each other, comp style for an evening

There might not be enough for two full servers, but #1 would definitely still be full with only 12 people MIA on #2 in a match.... just a thought anyhow (and stealing Tea's idea).