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« on: August 24, 2009, 01:07:34 AM »

Ok.

First things first; I've not had a "proper" copy of windows in a long time, although I did have proper XP, and then I bought a PC with proper XP with a "free upgrade" to vista, which never worked out (long story).


I've heard that Windows 7 is awesome. I also know that the RC is available (or was available) to download, does anyone have this? (if so, is it good?)


I'm considering getting the Home Premium from Amazon (although I've not shopped around yet) it seems reasonable (£63.99) and I'd like a proper version of windows and this seems like the one.

I'm guessing prices won't really drop below this. I do know that vista was available to students at a massively discounted price. (I am aware that 7 is available FREE to some students, but that's only for computer science, or something, and you need a login, I tried).


Thoughts? (I was going to pre-order, because I imagine the price might rise).


OH YEAH! What about drivers? will there be much support? or am I best waiting? I don't want my PC to be crappy (I like being able to run TF2 at full settings, max resolution with 60 FPS).
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 02:04:16 AM »

If you get the Professional Edition, there's something called XP mode which (if you have a processor that supports virtualisation, basically anything post Core 2 or Athlon 64) runs a virtual machine of Windows XP in the background, so anything Windows XP-ish will definitely work.
However the fact they've included that mode would incline me to believe that the bog standard edition is likely to have compatibility issues when going back as far as XP.

Also the big draw over Vista is that it's a ligter OS and requires less gubbins to run in the background, which means you should squeeze more performance out of your machine in other applications (than in Vista, probably not XP).

As far as Drivers are concerned, I'm not sure but according to all the press releases Microsoft have 'learnt their mistakes' and are 'working closely' with industry folks to get compatible drivers working.

I believe the Release Candidate ends soon (or may even have already ended).

Hey, I'm doing Computer Science... this free business sounds interesting, how do I go about getting it?
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 02:18:45 AM »

http://www.msdnaa.net/search/SchoolSearchIntl.aspx
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2009, 07:46:17 AM »

I consider the XP mode sort of a waste of time. How often do you ever need to run really old software anyway? And if you do, there's no guarantee that XP mode will work anyway. I mean it should, but there's no reason it won't be broken.

And yeah, the RC downloads stopped last Thursday.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2009, 09:03:14 AM »

Drivers shouldn't be a big problem since technically windows 7 is a vista service pack. (http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001290.html)

Same goes for normal software: If it ran with vista, it's 99,9% certain it will run with windows 7. And to be quite honest, the only software I found to be not compatible with vista was a) antivirus or b) easily fixed by starting with admin rights.
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2009, 10:55:53 AM »

i have already ordered my copy of win 7 pro, will arrive on the 22nd oct. i tried the rc and loved it. (ive always hated vista but really enjoyed win 7 its got the best bits of both worlds really and it was fast)
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2009, 11:14:29 AM »

I liked Vista and 7 too.

Vista was initially a pain and I admit that they seem to have made 7 better. I still laugh however that both OS's come from the same code core / kernel.

Sadly Win 7 was less reliable for me, Windows Explorer kept taking a nose dive whenever I used the right click on the desktop or trash can.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2009, 11:32:33 AM »

The RC was buggy for me. Lots of crashes in most games.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2009, 11:35:14 AM »

The RC was buggy for me. Lots of crashes in most games.
I suspect that most would probably be drivers? What do you think - accurate? Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2009, 11:39:56 AM »

I had loads of crashes until I updated the drivers (through Windows update, unbelievably)..and it worked!
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2009, 12:08:25 PM »

me gets windows 7 for free, yay for compter sciance degress
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2009, 12:08:41 PM »

note spelling not need for codeing Sad hense why im still in uni
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2009, 12:40:32 PM »

Science degress sound rather pessimistic. Smiley

On topic: yup, I am runnin the RC and (having skipped Vista) I am very happy with it. In most parts it's a vast improvement in visuals and usability over XP and at least a big improvement in performance and stability over Vista (not my experience, though, never had Vista running on my systems). Don't get any OS related crashes, though the Ati Drivers for Win7 seem to be a bit wonky, I get the famous lockups in some games, which I know worked for me on XP, but it's a rather rare occurance.

Home premium should be enough for almost everyone. The virtual XP mode is usually unneeded as the compability mode (known from XP and Vista) usually does the job, without running a separate virtual machine under XP and most of the other features are geared toward safety overkill (at least for a private user). I will get it as well, didn't realize you could still buy it at the cheaper price? Never had the chance to get it, when that preorder deal went on, was it extended or something?
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 02:53:06 PM »

How do you go about signing/accessing the free copy as i looked it up and my department at Uni is one of the ones eligable but not really sure where i need to be looking
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2009, 02:57:44 PM »

Ask your local technical people about whether they have an academic alliance program (sometimes called ELMS). Be prepared for them to kinda sigh and wish you'd go away, because they are generally a pain in the bum Smiley
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