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« on: October 16, 2011, 12:13:47 AM »

Something i really recommend is something lots of women use for any kind of birth, and that is arnica tablets, because they really help with bruising. If you find a homeopathic place(we have a good one if you need) and ask for 200c arnica for child birth, stronger than usual of 6c or 30c. I realise you should check Eve is ok to take it, but i really found it a help in healing.
To ingest a single molecule of arnica at 200c you'd need to swallow a mass of tablets far, far greater than the mass of the earth. So, good luck with that.
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2011, 09:15:35 PM »

You are entitled to your opinion. Please don't be derogatory about mine, simply because it differs from yours!
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2011, 09:34:12 PM »

There's a big difference between opinion and fact, he isn't being derogatory just stating that the concentration of 200c is incredibly low and in fact very unlikely to contain any arnica at all.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2011, 09:42:41 PM »

If you do end up going the placebo route though, I'd advise regular sugar pills, they're much cheaper.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2011, 11:08:40 PM »

You are entitled to your opinion. Please don't be derogatory about mine, simply because it differs from yours!!!
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2011, 11:12:45 PM »

There's a difference between opinion and fact, please go and look the facts up yourself, at that concentration you are getting none of the substance you are after at all.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2011, 11:53:18 PM »

Well the facts prove u wrong. It is highly diluted due to it's toxicity but still present.
And yet it is a FACT that people see a benefit from taking them and the point that was being made.

I suggest you think twice before posting on this subject again Captain Valentine.
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2011, 11:57:41 PM »

Very very diluted, yes. As far as I'm aware it is very difficult to prove how homeopathy works. Personally I don't believe in it, as such, because of the highly diluted concentrations. But what I do know is that homeopathy does help a lot of people. To my mind that is what is important.

Science has only just touched on what effects the mind can have upon the body

Anyway, this thread is about Hzza and Eve and people caring, which at the moment matters most, rather than a discussion about the merits of homeopathy
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2011, 12:37:16 AM »

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In medical research, placebos are given as control treatments and depend on the use of measured deception. Common placebos are inert tablets, sham surgery, and other procedures based on false information. However, placebos can also have a surprisingly positive effect on a patient who knows that the given treatment is without any active drug, as compared with a control group who knowingly did not get a placebo.
Homeopathy in a nutshell

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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2011, 12:54:12 AM »

Well the facts prove u wrong. It is highly diluted due to it's toxicity but still present.
And yet it is a FACT that people see a benefit from taking them and the point that was being made.

I suggest you think twice before posting on this subject again Captain Valentine.

The facts do not in any way prove me wrong, do you understand in any way how diluted this is?
In a concentration of 1C the ratio of substance to dilutant is 1:100 but at the much weaker concentration of 200C the ratio is 1:10^400 this means that for 1 atom of the original substance to be present there would have to be 10^400 atoms in the pill you were taking, seeing as there are far less atoms than this in the obvservable universe this is highly unlikely and therefore any effect you feel from taking it is purely the placebo effect.


Apologies for ranting in your thread hzza, I hope everything turns out well with the baby.
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2011, 01:12:10 AM »

Homeopathy is pseudoscience. There's no good reason to think that homeopathic pills work any better than a placebo. Which is why I advised sugar pills, they work just as well but are less expensive. Although personally I'd suggest medicine as a first choice.

I'm sorry about kinda hijacking this thread Hzza, but I think that this needed to be said. If someone posted some bad advice in the 'Technical' section of the forum, I think it would be important to correct it as it could lead to someone damaging their valuable hardware. With the topic being someones health, it is much more important.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2011, 01:14:57 AM »

I believe this is the actual study which solves this little argument.
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2011, 01:18:49 AM »

I suggest you think twice before posting scientific fact again, Captain Valentine.

And as said previously, apologies for posting about this in your thread Hzza. All the best.
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2011, 03:21:19 PM »

Something i really recommend is something lots of women use for any kind of birth, and that is arnica tablets, because they really help with bruising. If you find a homeopathic place(we have a good one if you need) and ask for 200c arnica for child birth, stronger than usual of 6c or 30c. I realise you should check Eve is ok to take it, but i really found it a help in healing.

If you're going to delete all the posts in the thread you might as well delete the nonsense that started the whole thing.
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2011, 03:21:58 PM »

Something i really recommend is something lots of women use for any kind of birth, and that is arnica tablets, because they really help with bruising. If you find a homeopathic place(we have a good one if you need) and ask for 200c arnica for child birth, stronger than usual of 6c or 30c. I realise you should check Eve is ok to take it, but i really found it a help in healing.

If you're going to delete all the posts in the thread you might as well delete the nonsense that started the whole thing.
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