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[Dodgy]

Problem with reinstatement is, that like said before, cheaters will have an easier time using it (since they can prepare themselves) than honest people.

How does having to do extra preparatory work amount to them having 'an easier time' than people who didn't use cheats?

It's similar to DRM: Pirates don't notice if you put in a CD check or a online activation that rechecks every 5 minutes and kicks you out of the game immediately and only allows 2 install ever, honest people do.

Funny you should bring up DRM, as it's just what the current system reminded me of. By not allowing appeals, VAC treats honest people exactly like DRM treats paying customers. Any AC system should, by default, err on the side of caution, allowing no appeals is the exact opposite of that. VAC is no substitute for well moderated servers anyway.

Oh, I am sure it's cheap not dealing with complaints they get too, in fact it's making them money, he's already rebrought everything -_-; yay for capitalism and corporations!

Now that is true for any banning.

What are you talking about? If they had banned him but allowed him to appeal the ban then he wouldn't have had to re-buy anything.

[Hzza]

QUICK HAWT, NEED MOAR SILLY LYRICS, THE SRSBSNS FOLK ARE AT IT AGAIN!

[claws]

I can't help staring at emu's avatar now, read that post and suddenly he looks as mad as all hell. It's scaring me!

[Power]

Well look what a debate we have just because Chaos didn't cheat. You should've cheated, man!!!

(yes, I also have an opinion on VAC, but this thread really doesn't need another wall of text).

[Hzza]

(yes, I also have an opinion on VAC, but this thread really doesn't need another wall of text).

This is why I've stopped posting. Also, opinions = arseholes and all that stuff, feels a bit like banging your head against a wall (or playing ME2 on insanity) after a while .

[Junta]

Interesting debate tbh. You can have an opinion here without being called an ars*hole, as long as you don't call other people ars*holes in the process .

[Hzza]

I was refering to opinions being LIKE arseholes; everyone has one, no-one wants to hear yours . Of course having an opinion doesn't make you an arsehole, badly worded post, once again, is badly worded!

[egg]

I was refering to opinions being LIKE arseholes; everyone has one, no-one wants to hear yours . Of course having an opinion doesn't make you an arsehole, badly worded post, once again, is badly worded!

lol Nice

If you'd included this explaination in your first post it would have been all good.

Also some opinions stink, and lots of things can be put into opinions but not everyone likes it.

[Power]

Some opinions are also stretched out beyond belief.

[Hzza]

Like Goatses?

[Power]

Man, you really are the sharpest knife among spoons, aren't ya?

[Hzza]

If you'd included this explaination in your first post it would have been all good.

Yeah, I know, I have the mistaken belief that people will understand what I'm talking about if I'm vague enough...

And Power yes, I was at the head of the class when it came to counting to potato.

[Power]

And Power yes, I was at the head of the when it came to counting to potato.

Holy shit, you blew my mind. What did I just read?

EDIT: Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 1 hours.

[hawt!]

QUICK HAWT, NEED MOAR SILLY LYRICS, THE SRSBSNS FOLK ARE AT IT AGAIN!

I wanna be the very best
like no one ever was
to catch them is my real test
to train them is my cause
I will travel across the land
searching far and wide
each Pokemon to understand
the power that's inside
Pokemon
gotta catch'em all (it's you and me)
I know it's my destiny
Pokemon
oooh your my best friend
in a world we must defend

Chorus:
Pokemon
gotta catch'em all (a heart so true)
our courage will pull us through
you teach me and i teach you
Pokemon gotta catch'am all

gotta catch'em all
every challenge along the way
with courage i will face
i will battle every day
to claim my rightful place
come with me the time is right
there's no better team
arm and arm we'll win the fight
it's always been our dream

(sing chorus twice)

[Hzza]

Stupid quoting before edit....

Google "count to potato" for answers.