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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2010, 08:11:57 PM »

Thanks so far.

I smell a VAC article incoming.
If this is the angle you are going for Tea, then I think a better question to ask would be 'would the owner of the car would be sent to prison for reckless driving', rather than the insurance analogy.
Of course I am. But for one the analogy (as most analogies) are not perfect. We are talking about a different kind of "damage" here. The more interesting question is that of responsibility (as in "taking ..."). And to respond to your demur: Badly phrased. If you would want to go that way it should read 'would the owner be disowned of that car'.

if we are talking VAC analogies though its more like the locking mechanism was designed badly and you could easily get an impression of the keys, like fitting a car door with a tumbler lock, instead of electronic locking.
Hmm, I'm wondering what you would say if the police would refuse to look for your car because that model only had low tech locks, and insurance would deny any responsibility for the same reasons.
But again, that's a different issue. We don't have any hard data, so it's difficult to tell how easily a steam account can be hacked. I would assume if it was that easy it would happen all the time and already have resulted in a major uproar.

If your car was stolen and it hit another car, they would have to claim from their own insurance for the damage to their car, you, as the owner are not liable for the damage caused by the stolen car.
More of general curiosity: So if your car (or to avoid car insurance, your house or other property) was damaged by a stolen car and the driver can't be determined you have to pay that damage yourself?

And of course the analogy is skewed. An owner will most likely not report his car stolen to commit some bad things with that car (after all, it would be easier to steal another car in the first place). In case of VAC however I don't think the idea is too far-fetched that a person would claim his account was hacked to use cheats. And of course once that "excuse" would work it would certainly set a precedence.

Still working on the article, though.
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2010, 09:15:30 PM »

But papafade - that only counts if your insurance is comprehensive (which covers you for damage to your own car as well as someone elses).

If the person being hit by the car only has 3rd party insurance then their insurance won't pay for the damage to their car.

e.g. Person A crashes into Person B (and it is Person A's fault) then Person A's insurance pays out for the damage on Person B's car - the damage to their own car is not covered with 3rd party insurance. Which is where the MIB fits in (and no nineblade - not the ben in mlack).

But person A isn't insured, because they stole the car, so person B has to claim on their own insurance because person A doesn't have insurance. Person A however, if caught and convicted, would be liable to paying costs.

He would be convicted of stealing a car and driving with no insurance and receive the associated sentence that comes with that - but unless Person B takes them to court for the damages then they are not liable - that's again where the MIB comes in.

And no teatime - everyone pays when that happens...a bit of your insurance premium goes to the MIB who then use that money to fund claims when the driver cannot be found or is uninsured.
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2010, 12:26:11 AM »

Thanks so far.

if we are talking VAC analogies though its more like the locking mechanism was designed badly and you could easily get an impression of the keys, like fitting a car door with a tumbler lock, instead of electronic locking.
Hmm, I'm wondering what you would say if the police would refuse to look for your car because that model only had low tech locks, and insurance would deny any responsibility for the same reasons.
But again, that's a different issue. We don't have any hard data, so it's difficult to tell how easily a steam account can be hacked. I would assume if it was that easy it would happen all the time and already have resulted in a major uproar.

We only just got email authentication. And WoW users have to have account verifiers (hardware) because their accounts are so valuable on the black market. There are plenty of steam accounts worth more than WoW accounts and we have no where near the same level of protection.
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2010, 03:31:25 AM »

Which is where the MIB fits in (and no nineblade - not the ben in mlack).

I was just being flippant Sam Smiley
I've been involved in a bad accident caused by an untraced driver back in 1989. My car ended up on it's roof on the wrong side of a dual carriageway and a Ford Granada hit me doing 70 because my car just landed in front of him unfortunately for him. Then I got knocked into the path of a smaller car which turned into a corrugated box thing. Eventually the MIB only offered me 2.5 grand for my car & injuries because they said it couldn't be determined whether I was partly to blame for the other casualties since I suffered memory loss of about 24 hours of my life. Strange things, bodies...I've got a feeling I'm unbreakable but I can't bring myself to try and disprove the theory :/
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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2010, 04:28:32 AM »

Which is where the MIB fits in (and no nineblade - not the ben in mlack).

I was just being flippant Sam Smiley
I've been involved in a bad accident caused by an untraced driver back in 1989. My car ended up on it's roof on the wrong side of a dual carriageway and a Ford Granada hit me doing 70 because my car just landed in front of him unfortunately for him. Then I got knocked into the path of a smaller car which turned into a corrugated box thing. Eventually the MIB only offered me 2.5 grand for my car & injuries because they said it couldn't be determined whether I was partly to blame for the other casualties since I suffered memory loss of about 24 hours of my life. Strange things, bodies...I've got a feeling I'm unbreakable but I can't bring myself to try and disprove the theory :/

How about a jump from a perfectly good plane from 10,000ft?! Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2010, 09:00:54 AM »

I've done that from 18,000ft

Sadly, I couldn't have refused because I was strapped to a royal signals display team captain, and he said he was going no matter what Cheesy


Sorry to hear of your accident Nick Sad
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2010, 10:53:59 PM »

I've done that from 18,000ft

Sadly, I couldn't have refused because I was strapped to a royal signals display team captain, and he said he was going no matter what Cheesy


Sorry to hear of your accident Nick Sad

 I was strapped to a welshman named Dave
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