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You should never need to be saving constantly. The game is broken if you are or you are playing above your level. Which is partly where the ability to change difficulty at any point comes in. Rare autosaves are a waste of time too unless you chose that as a challenge. And bad autosave placement I remember happening in some older fpses but really thats just poor design and testing again, hl frequently has enemy free zones or places to crawl through so why the autosave zone got placed in a combat arena I don't know. The bad placement forces you to save manage yourself because the designers failed to place them properly. I also find that with quicksave and a single slot its possible to mis-save yourself and have to fall back on manual saves anyway. Which adds another level of distraction to managing when to hit that F5. Even if you don't mind quicksave its still a distraction on some level whether you are aware of it or not and you'd probably get better immersion without using it.

The only recent game that I've had to save manage in is skyrim and that game is so horrendously broken you can't guarantee that something will happen in the next 5 minutes that bugs out and irreparably does something to your game. It sucks and uses a lot of my gaming time, although the bug management and mitigation via console in skyrim also adds a bunch of time. Although I tend to save before and after dungeons rather than constantly, using a lot of hdd space as it is. In skyrims case its the cost of playing but in a polished game like dishonoured I would expect better from it. For comparison both deus ex:hr and all assasins creed games I have relied on autosave and not suffered for it. Sometimes I screw up so badly I load but they did a great job handling saves.

Surely they could pause or save and quit berath? Manual save is only a few seconds more.

TLDR: Quicksave is a distracting tool that has value in saving you from bad save systems but you only need it because the save system is bad in the first place. It shouldn't be in games because the autosave should be well thought out and tested.

[Berath]

Not all the time....in Alice, you can pause I suppose but you can't quit and save without losing all your progress since the last save point...it's not always clear either when the last save point was either. Sometimes I've quit and found myself miles back when logging back in, at other times I've hardly lost anything.

In many ways it's not a very well designed game.

I'm trying to think of a game with a good autosave...

If a game has well placed autosaves and the ability to pause.....that should work

[Brahms]

Resi4 has good autosaves.

Personally think black mesa's autosaves have been fine.

[Brahms]

Never QS in max payne 3 either.

Ppl prolly qs more than they need to these days because they're used to the bad old days.

[Karthus]

Max Payne 3 has no Quicksave though? It has fixed savepoints which were badly placed. That game is a perfect example of how to not do autosaves.

[Brahms]

Hah, I never noticed. I guess I only played it on the normal difficulty tho so it wasn't much of a challenge anyway.

[Berath]

Here's some crap design 

Alice: Madness Returns.

Finish fight, bit low on health, find a couple of roses to absorb to top you up a bit. You're not so bad.
Find yourself on top of a slide
You slide down...there are a few bits of burning tar that you hit on your way down, difficult to avoid, take a bit more damage.
You arrive at the bottom, a little bit worse for wear and immediately hit a checkpoint and find yourself in a boss battle unable to go back. The doors are shut, you're trapped. Hardly any health in the room.....fine if you arrive on full health, otherwise pointlessly difficult.

No prior save points.