LtMama
Official WDG Kitten
Karma: 1524
 Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 3764
Meow?
|
 |
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2012, 01:41:05 AM » |
|
I suppose you can think of it that it encourages only people who are actually serious about putting a game out there they've put time and effort into that they think can succeed. People who've knocked some piece of shit together looking to make a quick buck are more likely to think twice before spending $100 on something that most likely wont get upvoted and give them any return. Should keep the catalog at least semi-free from a string of crap with only a very rare gem
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
discordance
Karma: 417
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 4933
Curious
|
|
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2012, 10:31:15 AM » |
|
Its unnecessary to have both hurdles though. If you have to pay $100 you should at least be able to make some sales in the greenlight area ala an appstore. And then use actual sales as the measuring stick for reaching the real store. Why ask people to win a popularity competition first? Some games may not be pretty enough to get past greenlight it its current terrible downvote troll form, but still be fun enough to generate sales slowly in the long term.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
LtMama
Official WDG Kitten
Karma: 1524
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 3764
Meow?
|
|
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2012, 12:47:06 PM » |
|
nobody said doing business didn't have risks, welcome to the world
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Leftism
"Stay Calm and Listen to the Mad Lefty!"
Clan admin
Karma: 263
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1441
|
|
« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2012, 12:56:12 PM » |
|
nobody said doing business didn't have risks, welcome to the world
Indeed. If you honestly think you have an idea good/strong enough then you'll more than likely be willing to take the risk.  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Those fucks will not save you. A knock on your door is coming." - DodgyEmu |
|
|
discordance
Karma: 417
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 4933
Curious
|
|
« Reply #34 on: September 06, 2012, 01:02:53 PM » |
|
This is manufactured risk that valve can alleviate if they come up with a less dumb system. The creators have probably already risked a lot on development why should valve spoon on more when greenlight is about expanding the store and supporting smaller developers? Risk should be from winning sales not navigating valves downvote trolls.
They probably will fix it in the end they've already said they intend to keep working on it.
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 01:07:49 PM by discordance »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Mr Chug
Clan leader
Karma: 742
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 2055
Any hole's a goal
|
|
« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2012, 01:13:47 PM » |
|
Honestly don't understand why they included a downvote option. A simple 'like it if you want it, don't if you don't, report it if it's a joke' would have been a better step.
Even if you then get 'upvote trolls' voting in joke projects, at least it's an easy glimpse from Valve to see that it's a joke rather than being unaware of buried legitimate projects.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"In science one tries to tell people, in such a way as to be understood by everyone, something that no one ever knew before. In poetry, it's the exact opposite." - Paul Dirac
|
|
|
Brahms
I can't start laughing
Karma: 725
Offline
Posts: 3801
I'm Johannes Brahms and I died in 1897
|
|
« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2012, 03:33:57 PM » |
|
Greenlight has to be one of the most boring things in gaming right now.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Official unofficial WDG Minecraft Server:  |
|
|
Karthus
Sound the bigplaysiren
Karma: 731
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 3377
Tommy thinks I can make movies
|
|
« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2012, 04:30:46 PM » |
|
#brahms #truth
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
discordance
Karma: 417
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 4933
Curious
|
|
« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2012, 08:04:15 PM » |
|
I think the worst thing about it is all the indie devs being smug about it and saying greenlight is fine. Yeah we get it you did it the hard way and didn't need greenlight, great, hush now. Greenlight is not aimed at devs capable of getting on steam anyway under the old system because otherwise it would be the most useless thing.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Power
Karma: 1157
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 3926
I like... babies?
|
|
« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2012, 09:10:57 PM » |
|
Also have you missed the fact that they aren't even keeping that money to themselves?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Jebus
Guest
|
|
« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2012, 10:40:19 PM » |
|
Also have you missed the fact that they aren't even keeping that money to themselves?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Brahms
I can't start laughing
Karma: 725
Offline
Posts: 3801
I'm Johannes Brahms and I died in 1897
|
|
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2012, 11:20:25 PM » |
|
The only thing more boring than greenlight is f2p vs subscription models.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Official unofficial WDG Minecraft Server: |
|
|
discordance
Karma: 417
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 4933
Curious
|
|
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2012, 12:04:06 AM » |
|
Well aware the money goes to the pants charity that is child's play. Minecraft made a legit gaming charity the gaming community needs to switch to them, its like building up neighbourhoods in actual poor areas ( http://www.edge-online.com/news/mojang-announces-block-block-collaboration-un), and not lets buy xbox 360s for bored hospital kids in america. If I was looking to use greenlight I would not until they added some choice of charity EFF, Red Cross, Block by Block etc. Who cares if valve keeps it or not, its kinda worse that they don't because they can explain away not providing you with anything whatsoever because OH that money yeah we gave it to charity so fuck you no downloads in the greenlight area. |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 12:06:13 AM by discordance »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Torgue
Clan member
Karma: 1546
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 2717
|
|
« Reply #43 on: September 11, 2012, 09:09:40 PM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
 COFFEEE POT WHY!
|
|
|
CruelCow
Unofficial Official Non-WDG WDG member
Karma: 1665
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 5922
Move along. Nobody suspicious is here.
|
|
« Reply #44 on: September 11, 2012, 10:23:04 PM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Total Members: 311
