I wasn't aiming that comment at anyone specific. The fact people don't have time to get into every type of a single game genre is enough for my comment

hehe.
"Difficult to learn" isn't in my mind a bad thing to remove; and man, I played quite a bit of DOTA - but it was hard if you never played much WC3 - the engine was the same after all (with all it's own issues).
Differences is where we'll be of decisively different opinions. I like the variety of choice pre-game (runes/abilities are neat bonus powers), the fact you can't abuse minions (killing allies...man that could really go wrong and honestly is a poor way to stop enemies getting them - denying because you can damage them or keep them away for fear of dying themselves is a better way IMO) and I don't even know what you mean by knowing when a hero will attack - like Warcraft, or any RTS, you can move closer but it doesn't directly say "I'm going to unleash hell upon you in 1 second" or anything. In any case; it changed the game so far as to make it different, that's something quite cool.

I don't think it is inherently detrimental any more then adding mouselook to FPS games was detrimental.

Then again would you'd likely not rate Doom or Duke 3D in the same vein as any more recent FPS for those same reasons. DotA-like perhaps, but not DotA itself.
In any case, it's an interesting thing having HoN which has evolved the hardcore style of DOTA (with some new heroes and some changes regarding mechanics; as well as a current active player base as shown by those here!), and DOTA2 pushing the hardcore more; although obviously would have it's own set of balance changes, it makes me wonder if people will buy another game for what amounts to the same thing a Warcraft III mod is. That's a large question; ongoing online support is key presumably. Even DOTA Allstars got patched after all; surely it'd require more then the basics, even if that involved a huge amount of heroes and more then one map (surely more then one; that is what annoyed me the most about DOTA - the one map! got bored

).
Also interesting, either trolling or no (and no, it will very much likely not effect the games "gameplay" outcome given Valve is involved), is the interesting trolling/anonymous comments regarding his
shady nature - just caught that today via. /. - mainly interesting how he might have worked for the HoN guys before Valve. Him being bossy is just interesting from a Hello Mag kind of "wow that is strange" kind of way. The
DoTA-allstars message is interesting too; and perhaps taken to a slightly higher level of verification. This is entirely besides the point of a game being fun to play - but I've not brought games before because the makers were assholes, hehe
