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« Reply #285 on: October 10, 2010, 09:21:28 PM » |
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Being able to kill people silently and dealing with sentries.
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« Reply #286 on: October 10, 2010, 09:23:03 PM » |
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Do they not scream?
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« Reply #287 on: October 10, 2010, 09:23:46 PM » |
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Nope and their body disappears
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« Reply #288 on: October 10, 2010, 09:25:15 PM » |
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Does a kill not show up on the notification thing?
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« Reply #289 on: October 10, 2010, 09:26:04 PM » |
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It does at the moment but they're fixing it.
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« Reply #290 on: October 10, 2010, 09:26:32 PM » |
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Being able to kill people silently
That's just a fancy way of saying killing without the teammates noticing!
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« Reply #291 on: October 10, 2010, 09:27:46 PM » |
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It doesn't work well for dealing with sentries, if the sentry sees you disguise then it will shoot you anyway, Making dealing with sentries the same as it has always been.
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« Reply #292 on: October 10, 2010, 11:00:44 PM » |
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That's just a fancy way of saying killing without the teammates noticing!
'Without teammates seeing' is different from 'without teammates hearing'. If they don't hear the kill then they won't turn around so it doesn't matter if people get used to what it looks like. It doesn't work well for dealing with sentries, if the sentry sees you disguise then it will shoot you anyway, Making dealing with sentries the same as it has always been.
Unless they have changed it, the sentry doesn't shoot you. So you don't even need to stab 'n' sap, you can just stab then wait 5 seconds and sap if you feel like it.
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« Reply #293 on: October 10, 2010, 11:04:57 PM » |
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Very few people turn around by stab-sounds.
And the 'n sap part of stab 'n' sap stopped being the hard part about 1 year ago when they changed the stab animation.
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« Reply #294 on: October 10, 2010, 11:13:29 PM » |
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Very few people turn around by stab-sounds. Not in my experience... And the 'n sap part of stab 'n' sap stopped being the hard part about 1 year ago when they changed the stab animation.
Yes, but now you can do it with sentry nests.
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« Reply #295 on: October 10, 2010, 11:19:01 PM » |
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Only bad engis build sentry nests in the first place!
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« Reply #296 on: October 10, 2010, 11:23:41 PM » |
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That ninja guy was pretty damn good in fairness.
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« Reply #297 on: October 11, 2010, 12:09:39 AM » |
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That's just a fancy way of saying killing without the teammates noticing!
'Without teammates seeing' is different from 'without teammates hearing'. If they don't hear the kill then they won't turn around so it doesn't matter if people get used to what it looks like. It doesn't work well for dealing with sentries, if the sentry sees you disguise then it will shoot you anyway, Making dealing with sentries the same as it has always been.
Unless they have changed it, the sentry doesn't shoot you. So you don't even need to stab 'n' sap, you can just stab then wait 5 seconds and sap if you feel like it. I haven't tried it since the first day of the update and I'm sure the sentry shot me then. Must have changed it since.
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« Reply #298 on: October 11, 2010, 12:33:59 AM » |
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That ninja guy was pretty damn good in fairness.
I love how their talking about nerfing the scout while hes destroying their team. @Egypt
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« Reply #299 on: October 11, 2010, 12:53:09 AM » |
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If a sentry spots an undisguised spy, it will shoot at it regardless of whether they disguise during that time. This means if you miss the engie with your first stab but hit with your second, the sentry will shoot you, which seems unfair. It's not even that great against sentry farms, as the other engie will have you dead fast enough to save some stuff unless he's stupid enough to allow his buddy to get behind him without checking him.
The kill isn't fully silent- if you're listening carefully you might hear the victim smack into a wall or the floor. Otherwise yeah, they don't even grunt, and they're gone in about half a second.
I still think it's underpowered in most circumstances- I think making the last disguise button work normally (so you still have to get that first kill every life, but then you can disguise as the last person you killed at will) would be a good compromise.
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