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[discordance]

well theres no local cache of a multiplayer world basically, im not sure if it even uses temp files might all be loaded directly into memory, so for example currently a train ride on the railway can lag other players simply because you are moving and require a large number of chunks to be downloaded. even though they are unchanged and you may even be doing a second loop on the railway within a few minutes. Its a big update for him to implement a local cache but it would go a long way to making the game more playable. The server can't really cope with large player numbers atm it would just crash or lag.

Lefty I understand its in beta but he doesn't seem to really know what hes doing on the technical side. Hes got a bit list of features to add before November as well as just making stuff up and implementing community ideas which is cool. But he has a long way to go technically and posts like that on his twitter don't inspire me with confidence that hes going to sort the technical issues until long long after release.

EDIT whats worse is a train ride in the nether, moving 1 block in the nether is the equivalent of moving 8 in the normal world, so in loading 1 nether chunk you load 8 in the normal world and probably some in the sky dimension. Now understand that the current railway can't keep up with chunk loads and causing lag and apply that to a nether railway loading over 8 times the chunks at speed.

[claws]

I haven't tried SMP in forever, but is he using any client-side prediction at all? I got the impression it was all pretty much server fed. I could see how that'd be a fairly major rework if so.

[discordance]

everything is basically serverside at the mo there might be some clientside prediction with mobs but the issue is with loading chunks, and the way it just redownloads unchanged data everytime you pass through an area. Ideally he would be putting out just an xml feed of map changes and your client syncs your map to that and once you are up to date you'd get a tiny trickle of updates during play. If you don't play in awhile and have to download lots of chunks you'd use up some bandwidth but only as much as now.

[e90]

I'm with you disco

[claws]

I was with you until you said xml

In less nerdy content, I've started cheating with invedit (single player). This makes the game way more fun. I recommend it. 120 diamond picks for me!

[Leftism]

Minecraft needs a super-sandbox mode for people with low attention spans. :-3

[discordance]

http://notch.tumblr.com/post/5775170768/the-changelist-for-1-6

hes already posted on his twitter "I forgot to add * Added Nether support to multiplayer! Seems like a big feature.. should be on the list!"

Some picks:
* Fixed minecarts next to each other causing extreme velocities (sorry!)

physics boosters broken now, probably because of the lag issues I pointed out with minecarts as it is. booster tracks have a top speed, physics boosters don't and are even more detrimental to servers.

* Fixed falling while riding not dealing damage to the rider
no more sick air on minecarts?

* Fixed a game crash when riding a vehicle or animal into the nether
so i can ride a vehicle through now? please be yes

+ Added server property view-distance. Sets the radius of terrain updates (in chunks) to send to the players. Range 3-15, default 10.
because he hasn't fixed the issues i've been ranting about

* Fixed creepers retaining charge level when they can’t see their target
phew

* Fixed ice so it regenerates regardless of whether it’s snowing or not

* Fixed rain falling through liquids
no more snow blindness underwater for burny

*Mushrooms now spreads (very) slowly
mushroom farming YAY

Only thing I can't see is it looks like sky dimension didn't make it in. So for 1.7 lets hope he gets sky dimension, pistons, and a proper implementation of network map updates

EDIT: * Fixed submerged boats rising very very fast
boat elevators nerfed . chugs current base depends on a boat elevator lawl. Hes not going to be happy

[discordance]

chug im forwarding apologies from my brother btw. He removed some torches from the hotel roof to do some modifications to the station. I've told him off before for poor lighting. Basically a creeper spawned and blew open a lava lamp. We all know what happened next to chugs wooden hotel...

[discordance]

so our map did corrupt the other day, all the snow areas drifted for a start, but spawn has moved now. The old area is unprotected and we found the new spawn just outside wolf bay blocking a wall section i'm trying to build *_*

[Brahms]

Disco, have we got the materials to make a portal to the nether? I want to discover what happens if you use a bed there for myself. I'm guessing you just get killed by zombie pig men... But it'll be interesting to find out for sure.

[discordance]

the nether is on a different time scale i think he means you can't sleep there because theres no day/night cycle, but previosuly people in the nether had to sleep as well as people in the overworld for overworld time to advance. And yes we can setup a portal, but you should come help out today. Patch is out tommorow or thursday

[Brahms]

There's not a chance the server will function on the day the patch is out.

[Mr Chug]

What? You couldn't get to the Nether in SMP before, I assumed he meant something weird about it in single player. Never tried it and can't be bothered to go from scratch to get the obsidian to actually manage it.

Still grumbling about the boat elevators myself, to be honest.

[Brahms]

Maybe it's nothing and I'll just be bitterly disappointed.

[Millicent Bystander]

Just visited wolf bay for the first time

Damn it, how did I miss THAT!

Amazing.

My castle needs work.