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Okay guys, in our family, Lullaby always gets my previous PC when I decide to build next one. Last time I made quite good decision when building mine, so I won't have to build a completely new one for a while and my last, which Lullaby is using right now, is getting quite old (about 5 years old now).
So I checked the upgrade possibilities, which were plenty at the time when I put the system together, I just never really get around to upgrade it, and it looks like the only chances are pretty much ebay or buying it from some leftover for horrendous prices. Here is what is in the PC right now:
Mainboard: ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe <- was state of the art when I got it, though I never used the SLI option, which is why my current board doesn't have it. I'd like to keep it, since it's a really good board and there are still upgrade possibilities, as you can see from the next components
RAM: PC-3200 (400MHz) DDR 184pin RAM (4x512MB, all Kingston, but each pair is a different model...). This is one of the weaknesses - only 2GB and all slots are taken. I'd like to replace this with two 2x1GB ram (because also, there is Win7 coming in at some later point).
Graphics card: Nvidia 8800 GTS 320MB <- probably my worst decision in the whole PC building history. While pretty fast in general (at that time), the little memory really shows in the current games and especially since we upgraded our displays and gone from 1280x1024 to 1920x1080. I already bought an Ati 5770 and tested it with the current components, but it looks like the rest of the PC is too slow to really get much out of it (hence the need for upgrade). Benchmark wise the 5770 is like 3 times faster than the 8800 GTS, but in game it still runs pretty bad.
CPU (probably the highest upgrade potential here): Athlon 64 3500+ (single core, 2.2 GHz real clock) - alright in itself, but not up to speed with the 5770 card apparently. The mainboard still supports the earliest generation of the dual core athlons up to Athlon 64 x2 4800+ (sockel 939), so there is plenty room to go and even with the same clock speed, dual core should be a huge upgrade, so that's good. The only problem is, there are hardly any of those CPUs available.
Anyway, why am I posting this? Well first, so you know how bad Lullaby has it and hang your heads in shame every time you get killed by her. But then the more important reason: I wanted to ask if anyone of you maybe has some spare parts and can help me out with this upgrading adventure? I'm monitoring ebay closely, but it's hard to actually get anything for a reasonable price so...
Do you have one of the following and are willing to speak about some kind of an exchange deal? Money/Medic time/old parts in exchange and stuff?
- RAM PC-3200 (400 MHz) DDR-Ram 184Pin - Manufacturer is not a concern. Either 2x1GB or 2x2GB (if there are 2GB PC-3200 ram sticks out there).
- CPU Athlon 64 x2 for Sockel 939 from 3600+ and higher or Opteron Dual core for Sockel 939, which I wasn't even aware existed. (3600+ is 200Mhz slower than the current CPU, but I guess two cores can balance it out easily).
If you do, please PM me. Thanks!
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I had a very similar system which I upgraded about a year ago. I looked at getting a new processor/RAM but in the end I ended up going the new motherboard/processor/RAM route for not much more money and far more performance.
I also replaced the ancient 80Gb hard drive which gave me surprisingly massive performance gains. I'd definitely recommend the Western Digital Caviar Blue Series.
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Okay, Brahms was kind enough to offer us a CPU (and I actually just got a (worse) CPU off ebay for a reasonable price... will have to resell it then). I'll see about the RAM CV, but I'd really rather have two sticks that are coming from the same pair for compability reason. The older DDR stuff was a bit picky back in the day. This is going to be fun!
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Why not just buy Nadine a decent rig? There's no shame in hers being bigger than yours
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I have a CPU that would fit but tbh I have no idea what it is any more.
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I reckon that staying with socket 939 even with an X2 processor still won't get you anything good in terms of performance with that 5770 card.
Best bet might be to go for a cheap AMD motherboard and processor combo? You'd need DDR2 ram of course, but some of us can help there if needed
I really have no idea of budget, so I may be speaking out of turn...
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Junta does have a point, TBH Power. But I don't like the idea of this chip sitting around (big fan of recycling) so I'll drop my price in half. It's an Opteron 180, for the benefit of those reading along, not likely to get all of the performance out of that graphics card, but I think (for the price) a worthy upgrade. I think half of the price I mentioned previously is <20 pounds. Hope you don't mind me talking money in public, but if someone think I'm ripping you off they are free to say it, I won't take offence.
However, I would consider one of the cheap Athlons around atm. I think I have an.. x2 620? It was pretty cheap. I can't post anything until this weekend so take your time to think about it.
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No no mate, I was completely fine with your previous price. You can hardly get an opteron for 939 these days and they are going on ebay well above the price you initially asked for.
You all have a point about cheapish upgrade possibilities and I actually looked into it first, but the thing is, Lullaby will already have a decent rig when I get a new one. My current one eats everything I throw at it and there is still room for improvements. This cycle has been like this for about.. uhm.. 4 PC generations now.
So while I could get a new mainboard and one of the new AMD CPUs (I even have 4GB of cheap-o DDR2 ram lying around), I don't really want to spend that kind of money. It would be at least 150€ for the new processor and a mainboard, probably more.
The budget is basically zero, all stuff that I bought lately (new PSU, Ati 5770 and that stupid CPU that I bid on, before Brahms wrote me) I'm partially getting that money back by selling my other stuff. Just sold the 4850x2, the old CPU of Nadine's will also be sold for whatever it might sell for. A dual core CPU makes a difference for TF2 and with the new graphics card TF2 should benefit through three time more memory on the 5770 alone.
If it doesn't work out and the 5770 is still slowed down by the remaining components I can still go for a new mainboard and stuff, but for now I'd at least like to try it with Bs CPU.
Also thanks to CV and Aquila (who wrote an e-mail), but I think an Opteron 180 is about as good as I can get for now, so let's try that first.
EDIT: Can I just add, that I'd be amazed at how helpful you guys are, but I'm not, because I fully expected it. You all are great. Feel free taking one of Abdas internets!
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