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[Junta]

Second boss is stupid and hard and stupid.

Yes, quite agree. Hate killing things by luck tbh... I managed to bump into her/him/it (ambiguous to avoid spoiler) and follow....

[Tommy the Cat]

Just finished it. Wow. All I can say really.

Looking forward to my 2nd playthrough

[discordance]

I also just finished, while I loved the game, fuck the ending. 0 closure to be had, and if the canon ending is the one brahms thinks then fuck the writers.

[Tommy the Cat]

I liked the endings.

[discordance]

thats because adam jensen talked philosophy at you and you felt smart . What I wanted to hear about is what happened to the characters in the 25 years leading up to deus ex 1. More of a fallout style ending, less waffling without any actual narrative. Instead it seems they opted for the everybody dies is the canon ending because then we don't have to write anything else.

Or hopefully they plan a sequel, NOW WITH CLOSURE

[CruelCow]

Sequels are sooo yesterday. DLC is already announced.

Depending on the ending you chose, I'm not quite sure where they will squeeze it in.

[Brahms]

It's apparently the bit when he's "off the map" which seems like utter nonsense to me. None of that bit made any sense anyway...

[Tommy the Cat]

thats because adam jensen talked philosophy at you and you felt smart . What I wanted to hear about is what happened to the characters in the 25 years leading up to deus ex 1. More of a fallout style ending, less waffling without any actual narrative. Instead it seems they opted for the everybody dies is the canon ending because then we don't have to write anything else.

Or hopefully they plan a sequel, NOW WITH CLOSURE

c*nt

[discordance]

thats because adam jensen talked philosophy at you and you felt smart . What I wanted to hear about is what happened to the characters in the 25 years leading up to deus ex 1. More of a fallout style ending, less waffling without any actual narrative. Instead it seems they opted for the everybody dies is the canon ending because then we don't have to write anything else.

Or hopefully they plan a sequel, NOW WITH CLOSURE

The philosophical ending nullifies your choice which was a problem for lots of people, what is the point in a choice if adam is just going to ponder it, I could have done that for myself. It fits for the everybody dies ending because then it really was down to everyone else and not you what happened and your narrator adam is dead (still a crappy lazy ending though to kill everyone to make way for the DX1 story). The other options had direct consequences adam was in the middle of, his story didn't end there, I mean unless the super bullshit ending is that really panchea always explodes you just get your messages out first, if he died everytime and it was clear that he did I'd be more comfortable with the endings although still mad about killing everyone off. The way they were presented though is that the story continues and your choice has far reaching consequences that your narrator lives to see, and even if we get a sequel and the sarif ending is retconned as canon we will never get the narrative for the other endings.

Even if you provide the immediate narrative you can still sum up with the philosophy without removing meaning from player choice and still get to ponder it all at the end.

[Tommy the Cat]

thats because adam jensen talked philosophy at you and you felt smart . What I wanted to hear about is what happened to the characters in the 25 years leading up to deus ex 1. More of a fallout style ending, less waffling without any actual narrative. Instead it seems they opted for the everybody dies is the canon ending because then we don't have to write anything else.

Or hopefully they plan a sequel, NOW WITH CLOSURE

The philosophical ending nullifies your choice which was a problem for lots of people, what is the point in a choice if adam is just going to ponder it, I could have done that for myself. It fits for the everybody dies ending because then it really was down to everyone else and not you what happened and your narrator adam is dead (still a crappy lazy ending though to kill everyone to make way for the DX1 story). The other options had direct consequences adam was in the middle of, his story didn't end there, I mean unless the super bullshit ending is that really panchea always explodes you just get your messages out first, if he died everytime and it was clear that he did I'd be more comfortable with the endings although still mad about killing everyone off. The way they were presented though is that the story continues and your choice has far reaching consequences that your narrator lives to see, and even if we get a sequel and the sarif ending is retconned as canon we will never get the narrative for the other endings.

Even if you provide the immediate narrative you can still sum up with the philosophy without removing meaning from player choice and still get to ponder it all at the end.

http://youtu.be/V3y3QoFnqZc

[Tommy the Cat]

Ok maybe I should justify myself. When I experience any kind of entertainment format I want it to finish on a note that makes me think, is open to discussion and makes me want more. Deus Ex filled all 3 of these criteria for me.

Plus the story ended exactly how I wanted it too. It wasn't a GET THE GIRL GET THE BOOBS LOLOLOL ending and the point was how to portray the developments of the ending to the public.

[CruelCow]

Plus the story ended exactly how I wanted it too. It wasn't a GET THE GIRL GET THE BOOBS LOLOLOL ending and the point was how to portray the developments of the ending to the public.

But it doesn't do that; it's just adam explaining to you why you/he chose the thing you did, not what happens after it.

[Tommy the Cat]

So? The Dark Knight just ended with batman walking away, not what happened after.

[discordance]

Ok maybe I should justify myself. When I experience any kind of entertainment format I want it to finish on a note that makes me think, is open to discussion and makes me want more. Deus Ex filled all 3 of these criteria for me.

Plus the story ended exactly how I wanted it too. It wasn't a GET THE GIRL GET THE BOOBS LOLOLOL ending and the point was how to portray the developments of the ending to the public.

I agree with all of that I just wanted my choice to mean something and give me a little actual narrative that can then end with making me think.

the sarif ending for instance, what happens to humanity front, is there increased violence against anti-augs, what happens to sarif and jenson and sarif industries, then adam can tell me about maybe sarif industires will remain a good guy maybe in the future their morailty will erode, maybe the ostracisation of anti-augs came with too high a cost. We can have our cake and eat it too.

[Karthus]

I liked the endings.

I didnt. They were terrible and didnt fit into the awesome game and story that came beforehand. Felt like they came close to releasedate and just came up with some stupid philosophy stuff that makes you feel smart (what disco said). Theres too many questions left open when the game is over and that shouldnt happen in a game where you have the ability to know everything about a story/character if you want to. The end was like "Ha, expect to see all the details? Well screw you heres some stock footage of railways followed by credits, lol gtfo". This works in movies, NOT in a game!