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« on: September 15, 2009, 09:26:48 AM »

Im really getting frustrated with my fps drops in TF2. Since the SnipervsSpy Stuff in May, my fps drastically dropped from like a constant 60-80 to 25-40 on dx9. Thats not a big problem, but when theres too much action going on in the middle the game begins to stutter. I tried everything to stop it, but even with FPSconfigs that give me 50 more fps, I still get those stutters. Found out that almost evryone that has a similiar rig has the same probs, so next month Im gonna get some money for my birthday so I wanna upgrade my PC. First of all here are my specs Wink

AMD x2 6000+ (2 * 3000 MHZ)
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ATI x1950 PRO 512 MB PCI-e

So I personally think the problem here is the graphics card. Its really old (2006). But I often hear TF2 depends more on the CPU so could that be a reason? I dunno, I personally think the CPU is still fine and only the GPU sucks with TF2.

So if you agree with me that the problem is the graphics card, heres MY suggestion: I wanna change to Nvidia, cause I asked so many people that have none of those fps problems and they all have Nvidia cards so I guess its the better choice.

So what Nvidia card would you suggest? Im not really in to all those Graphic Card numbers so I dont really now whats "teh shiiat" at the moment. Pleaser regard that my budget will be about 150€, if its a REALLY good deal, I would go up to 200€.

Thanks for your help and as usual, sorry for the grammar and spelling mistakes Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 09:39:24 AM »

I agree, the problem's with your graphics card.  I'd stay with Ati though and get a Radeon 1Gb 4870 or wait a month or so and get one of the new 5 series cards.

If you want a Nvidia (nothing wrong with them) go for a GTS260 with 1Gb RAM for about £15 more than the Ati.

The rest of your PC spec seems fine, you'd notice an improvement with more RAM though (note 32 bit operating systems only recognise 3.25Gb RAM).  Are you running XP or Vista?
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2009, 10:48:39 AM »

im running a single-core 3.4 Ghz P4 thats 5 years old and i don't get fps drops since I recently upgraded to a 1Gb 4850 and that sorted it out.
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 12:33:25 PM »

I had similar drops in framerate, even with a high average fps, an upgrade to 4gb ram solved it.
Think you can still get win7 rc codes for 64bit, and there's plenty of dl available for the rc os

edit: have nvidia gpu
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 12:34:50 PM »

Well said disco.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2009, 12:37:08 PM »

I had similar drops in framerate, even with a high average fps, an upgrade to 4gb ram solved it.
Think you can still get win7 rc codes for 64bit, and there's plenty of dl available for the rc os
Nah I wanna stay with XP, win7 sucked when I had the RC. (no pls dont start a discussion here @all Cheesy )

@Disco and Fade: I started the same thread in etf2l and some guy also said the 4850 1gig would work good, sounds nice, think Im gonna give that a try then next month. Thanks!
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2009, 01:03:06 PM »

I've got a 4850 and an E8400 and with m0res fps script get about 60fps on 32-man pl_hoodoo first stage, last cap spam corner. Very rarely drop below 60, only when I'm doing something stupid/running in windowed mode.
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 02:42:17 PM »

M0resfps script? Pray tell us of this voodoo witchcraft script thingy
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2009, 02:45:57 PM »

M0resfps script? Pray tell us of this voodoo witchcraft script thingy
http://www.m0re.nocrits.com/index.php?site=files&cat=1

@Hzza Ive also using m0res normal fps config and Ive got the same fps and Im using windowed mode.
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2009, 02:51:01 PM »

I only use window mode when I'm pugging, I don't get much of a performance hit when its only 6v6. I should say that 60fps is the minimum I get, I usually get about 120-150 with normal action.
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2009, 07:01:10 PM »

m0re's normal fps config near enough double my fps, if anyone is struggling with fps i would recommend it as long as you dont mind the game looking not so good. make sure you have it set to dx 8.1 as well.
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 01:16:47 PM »

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/_/articledetail.jsp?agid=1004&aid=27301&lid=2

hmm looks good eh?
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 01:44:34 PM »


Compare to the box art Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2009, 01:45:18 PM »

Thats an omen!
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2009, 02:26:06 PM »

I have the 512mb version of that card (well, sapphire...but mine has 2 DVI and only a single slot cooler) and I can vouch for it's awesomeness - the cooler isn't *great* on it though so it runs quite hot (nothing to worry about - but don't expect to overclock it much)
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