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« on: August 25, 2009, 11:27:47 PM »

So one of my mates (Tommy the Cat actually, he's been on the server a bit) is looking to upgrade his PC in stages and I want to try and help him out a bit. I'm not sure what he's rocking at the moment (I'll find out and post when I get it) but aparently its pretty archaic and pretty much everything needs upgrading. The firstly thing he wants to get is the mobo and gfx card. He's got £200 to spend so I wanted to gauge you guys opinion on what to get. I've recommended him to spend about £150 on the mobo and the rest of the graphics card. I've had a quick look on scan/overclockers and came up with this little combo:

Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard

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Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4670 1024MB DDR3 PCI-Express Graphics Card

but obviously I'm not that experienced in this kind of thing. Let me know what you guys think.

edit - AFAIK he mainly wants it to play TF2 so it doesn't need to be next-gen capable, but obviously bang for buck is the main thing here.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 11:36:02 PM »

Sup Hiz, Yes tis I, Tommy the Cat, seeking an upgrade so I can play TF2 while I'm at uni (instead of doing any work).

I don't know my specs off the top of my head but the most recent game I can successfully play well is Call of Duty 2. *Pause for laughter and booing - Actually Call of Duty 2 rocked so fuck y'all.*

I digress. I would like if possible to spend less than £200 and all I want is to play TF2 well. - I mean have it run at a decent standard, I fear I will always be a bit of a noob though.
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 11:40:12 PM »

I may be nuts, but I'd rather have a £150 graphics card and a £50 mobo than the other way around. Definitely could do with knowing what he has right now though.
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 11:44:43 PM »

I may be nuts, but I'd rather have a £150 graphics card and a £50 mobo than the other way around. Definitely could do with knowing what he has right now though.
The way I see it, the mobo is a bitch to upgrade but a graphics card can just be thrown in/dropped out. As I said, I'm not great at this so if thats what you think, thats what I'll recomend.
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 11:55:26 PM »

This is the mobo I have, it's very good.

It's cheaper than the one you suggested, and considering it's budget I don't think the extra features will be worth it. This will give more $$$ for a better GPU or CPU.
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2009, 11:57:55 PM »

Considering that's an i7 (socket 1366 motherboard) he would probably have to buy new RAM and CPU to use it in.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2009, 03:18:32 AM »

If he got that motherboard, he'd also need to buy one of the latest Intel chips, which arn't exactly cheap.

My advice for a balanced setup is go for a cheap core2duo or Phenom2 setup - drop £50 on a motherboard, £70 on Gpx, £30 to get at least 2GB DDR2 and find £90 for a good dual or Tri-core Cpu.

How does this look? If he already has at least 2GB of DDR2 it should be almost perfectly on budget


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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2009, 07:33:20 AM »

For that money, spend £20 more and get a 4770 - he won't regret it Wink

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-107-PC&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1434
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2009, 09:30:03 AM »

There was a discussion a few threads ago http://www.wdgclan.co.uk/index.php?topic=2598.0.  A wide range of options mentioned.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 09:42:33 AM »

Cheers guys, furthur proof I have a long way to go before I start spec'ing PC's for me mates Wink. I'll get him to drop in and have a look, see what he decides Wink.
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 10:21:09 PM »

Looking at Zarfs list this looks more complex than I had imagined! Damn my ancient PC. I think it has Hieroglyphs in it.

I'd kinda like to spend less than £200.
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2009, 06:24:47 PM »

It would help if we knew what you have in there already...
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2009, 08:47:20 PM »

From what I know about cheap gamer PCs, invest most of your money on a midrange graphics card, buy a slowish processor, but hopefully one you can upgrade in the future and go for Ram capacity before you go for ram speed. Someone will probably disagree though.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2009, 08:57:33 PM »

It would help if we knew what you have in there already...

This.

As for your advice Brahms - yeah, that's not a bad way to go about it...I think so long as you get a dual core, at least 2Gb DDR2 ram (800Mhz speed) and a graphics card for at least £60-70 (like the 4770 that Junta's rocking) then you'll get something that can play most current gen games on, certainly TF2 anyway Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2009, 11:05:09 PM »

From what I know about cheap gamer PCs, invest most of your money on a midrange graphics card, buy a slowish processor, but hopefully one you can upgrade in the future and go for Ram capacity before you go for ram speed. Someone will probably disagree though.

Although it is infinitely easier to replace a GPU than a CPU (stupid 4 pin system...).

I do agree, though, I have had a shitty 1.8GHz core 2 duo but a decent GPU and it's worked fine.

(recently OCing the CPU has made this PC last probably an extra year).
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