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« on: August 16, 2009, 03:16:08 AM »

Someone else here playing this DOTA version 2 thingy? I never played Dota, but this game is pretty cool allthough Im  still a big noob.

Cant really tell you much about it because the beta has a NDA, but if youre playing it, feel free to add me for a game: "JimmyBlanka"
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2009, 03:24:04 PM »

NDA? heh. Idle Thumbs did in-depth commentary on how piss-poor the community was, which has really put me off investigating it. Any hostile community basically makes me go "why bother". I hope your experience is better then what theirs was.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2009, 05:10:43 PM »

As far as I'm aware the NDA only says that you can't post videos or screenshots, at least, that's the only bit of it i remember.

The BFM and HAM guys have been playing rather a lot over the last week or two and overall we really like it. I haven't played the original DotA so i can't compare it to that, but it is much more fun than Demigod. Apart from a few minor balance issues (most of which have been fixed now), it seems like it's in a releasable state.

NDA? heh. Idle Thumbs did in-depth commentary on how piss-poor the community was, which has really put me off investigating it. Any hostile community basically makes me go "why bother". I hope your experience is better then what theirs was.
I haven't seen any 'hostile' community so far, are they in the US or in Europe? Cos that would make a big difference.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2009, 05:12:41 PM »

The community really sucks, lots of uberpros who think they can say what they want, but I only play games where the mode is "Noob only", so its okay. Never had peeps who nerdrage
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2009, 07:06:34 PM »

Ah, we usually just piss about either playing against each other or using complete noob tactics to win somehow.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2009, 07:51:16 PM »

YES push mid!!!!! Smiley when in doubt, push mid. when loosing, push mid. when playing ophelia, push mid!

thats our 1337 tactics
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2009, 09:03:16 PM »

The Idle Thumb guys are American.

If there is no real NDA, then explain the game! What is good, what is bad, would you buy it, is it bot-supported, online only, does it have friend-list support or is it integrated into some service, and how does it hold up against the basically-free original DoTA? Smiley

Inquiring minds want to know!
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2009, 02:47:32 AM »

I'm not really one to make in-depth comments about it since i'm not a huge RTS player, what i will say though is that it is good fun to play. At the moment, i'm not aware of any bots and only online play is available, although there is a greyed-out option for 'local play'. It has very good friend-list support, which isn't integrated into any other service. It looks very good graphically, so I imagine it is better than the original in that respect, but having not played it i can't say more.

Overall it's worth playing for free if you can get a beta key, they apparently give them out to current beta testers and through various other schemes, so ask around.
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2009, 11:01:53 AM »

Well those who are lookiong for an in depth explination will proberbly not find it from me but i will try and give one anyways.

Description

Now this is an action game in an rts world. those who know Tales of Valor, it could be assosiated slightly with opperation assault. You have varying heroes, 2 bases, waves of soldiers pushing towards each others bases with the task to destroy their main base. the difference is the fact that opperation assualt is dreadfully unbalenced while HoN is not.

You control one heroe which means every click will make a difference but by only giving you one player to control you can focus on controlling him/her well, yes there are female characters but really calling them female is a stretch when you see them. 

What makes this game fun to play is the varying phases and things you can do in any one game.

at the beggining you start off all level 1 and you have 3 lanes you must split up in which contain creeps, NPC characters who run the lanes and try and destroy the towers. The other team has creeps aswell so they bump together. In the first 10 mins or so you try and level up to get strong because at level 1 creeps will own you.

This phase is all about timing as you get more xp for last hitting creeps (actually killing them) and denying your creeps (last hitting your own creeps to prevent xp). Basicly you try and level up while your enemy trys to stop you. Remember he/she will be in the lane aswell and they will try and harras you to scare you away which is why you must do the same.

Once this phase is over you move onto the part of the game which i find the most fun which is around level 10 or around 15 mins in. This stage you have many options; gank, lane, push,neutra kill. The list is endless but what on earth do those things mean i hear you say. Well maybe your to bored to care by now but what the hell. Simply put the options are endless and untill you play the game there is no point spending another 5 paragraphs explaining these terms


The final phase is all about pushing the enemies base and trying to destroy their central structure, now this phase requires the most teamwork as a team who have been outleveled by the enemy team either by being killed ot much by them or just sucking can still win by being smart and knowing when to hit the enemy hard, push mid!

Oh i should also mention you get gold from killing creeps which can be spent on loads of different items which help make your character beter. So if you can't last hit creeps you won't get nearly enough gold to get items which really bost your character.



Pros

lots of fun with friends with friends
Many different characters with completly different play styles to play as
variaty of items to select
something always going on
there is always one way you can improve your skill
when you are skilled it is amazing as you realise how every little click you do matters
HAM and BFM play it so there are people to play but seriously who wants to play with BFM, play with HAM Smiley


Cons


you need experience and not the stuff your character earns but you need to play this game quite a bit before you will understand it
the skill floor is high so i can see people who don't really like fantasy not sticking with it
unless you have friends to play with it will be hard to stay commited


Conclusion

I hate fantasy i really do, stupid orcs, stupid dwarfs and stupid elves. I looked on dota with discust because it was fantasy but this game is unique which is why i play it. its not an rts, its not an action game, its somewhere inbetween and this new genre is great if made well. Yes relic i am looking at you!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2009, 11:39:15 AM »

I hate fantasy i really do, stupid orcs, stupid dwarfs and stupid elves.
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But yeah, if you need a noob accursed (thats the character I often play), feel free to contact me Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2009, 12:55:11 PM »

I hate fantasy i really do, stupid orcs, stupid dwarfs and stupid elves.
Oo

But yeah, if you need a noob accursed (thats the character I often play), feel free to contact me Tongue


But yeah, if you need a noob accursed (thats the character I often play), feel free to contact me Tongue
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lol accursed is a get out of jail free character for sure with his ultimate being one which saves your ass from certain death. i hate going up against him because he has so many defensive spells that i just can't kill him before his buddies come after me.

my username in HoN is HAMfisted so if you want to add me whenever your on ill see if we can get a game together
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2009, 12:57:12 PM »

Damn I always get ganked by other heros who are on the same level. I really gotta learn how to use his abilities. That AoE thing where he heals himself the amount of enemies that are around him is cool though.
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2009, 01:00:40 PM »

Damn I always get ganked by other heros who are on the same level. I really gotta learn how to use his abilities. That AoE thing where he heals himself the amount of enemies that are around him is cool though.
i suggest thunderbringer as he has a powerful nuke however he is a little squishy. another fun one is nighthound who has an ulti which makes him permantly invisible unless you attack
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2009, 01:27:55 PM »

So... is there a single thing different to dota?
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2009, 01:30:48 PM »

its what dota wanted to be but was held back by the warcraft 3 game so yes it is pretty much dota.
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