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« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2009, 12:29:01 PM »

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Despite wanting to improve the cooling, I'm in the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mind at the moment (sadly).
I never quite see the obsession about cooling, as long as your processor isn't throttling(!) or crashing who cares Smiley

Helps make your cpu last longer so its a long term investment or you can overclock it so its a short term one Tongue

Yes but the life span of CPUs is so high you will pretty much always upgrade the CPU due to improvements in technology, rather than 'its worn out' Smiley
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« Reply #61 on: October 15, 2009, 12:32:23 PM »

not everybody does that.. its mainly us techies that do that.. most people are happy with what they have
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« Reply #62 on: October 15, 2009, 12:35:31 PM »

not everybody does that.. its mainly us techies that do that.. most people are happy with what they have

Seriously though I have never known a CPU to need replacing due to this.

And the only people pushing the boundaries of performance and therefore temps, will only be us techies Smiley
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« Reply #63 on: October 15, 2009, 02:01:44 PM »

Well I killed two PCs within 10 minutes once upon a time. Smiley Faulty PSU killed the CPU, which killed the MB of the second PC I put it in to test what got killed, which then killed the original CPU that was in it in first place, which apparently also killed 2 of the 4 of the RAM modules.

So... 1xPSU, 2xCPU, 1xMainboard and 2xRAM Modules all within about 10 Minutes. I rock.
So, basically Lullaby does the upgrading in your house now? Wink

(Applauded .. made me feel better about my heatsink f*ck up)
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« Reply #64 on: October 15, 2009, 02:08:51 PM »

Ooo, this is the thread I started on CPU cooling if thats any help to anyone Wink.
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« Reply #65 on: October 15, 2009, 02:17:52 PM »

I suddenly lost any interest in CPU cooling.
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« Reply #66 on: October 15, 2009, 02:26:05 PM »

for those of you who want a 775 cooler that DOESNT have the silly plastic clips, Check this out
On offer atm from Overclockers... Zalman make good quality, well performing but most of all QUIET heatsinks and cooling fans.. great bargain for people who want a quiet, affordable and well made cooler (wont be too effective, but for the price it'll be great quality)
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« Reply #67 on: October 21, 2009, 02:59:48 PM »

Yay I wanna be hip, too! Okay, here is the deal: never cared about overclocking, always bought hardware that was sufficient for my needs (higher middle range) with the possibility to upgrade at a later time, so I never really looked into it. With my latest PC I made it quite the same and I'm still happy with the performance (though I bought a different graphics card in a fit of madness since then).

BUT: Win7 is there, DX11 is coming, DX11 graphic cards are already available and so on - it will be time for some speed boost soon (my guess, middle 2010). Unfortunately, it seems as if I messed up a bit on my latest rig and actually bought hardware a bit higher on the evolution ladder than the times before. Well okay, right now I got:

CPU: Intel Q6600 (Stock speed, 2.4 GHz) Sockel LGA775
Mainboard: Something MSI P35 chipset (I'm at work, can provide details later)
RAM: 2x1 GB 800MHz OCZ Platinum blah
Graphics: Ati 4850x2 (yeah, I know. Don't really know why - I mean it's a beast, but... ah it could be a whole different thread)

So.. obvious upgrade possibilities would be the amount of RAM,  a faster CPU or the latest generation graphics card (not really needed IMO). CPU-wise there are a couple of models in the upper range that would fit on my mainboard, but I don't feel like it is worth it. I think the latest model, that would fit on my mainboard is Q9550. Which would be about 20€ more expensive, that what Q6600 is worth now, have smaller build size, 440 MHz faster clocking and more cache. But all in all, I don't think the trouble with bying it and selling the Q6600 is worth it at all. I mean, sure it's a bit faster, but not a real upgrade.

I don't feel like going to the i5 or i7 cores just yet (plus it means new mainboard and RAM), so it looks like the only way to significally upgrade anything for a low cost would be to go for overclocking. I heard that it is possible to overclock Q6600 to 3.6 GHz from 2.4 Ghz in some cases, which is a bit extreme and don't think I need it, but it seems like there is a lot of potential, which has got to be noticable on it's own, right?

As I said, as of now I'm perfectly happy with the performance (and using the Win7 RC I know it manages just fine), I just want to see how far I could go, when I really need it - like say, if I buy more and faster RAM and a DX11 compilent graphics card end of the next year? If it works out, it would be a relatively cheap upgrade with quite a long time until I'll need anything else, just how I like it.

So, very long story short: OVERCLOCKING TEST!!!

Okay, I have a midi sized tower, all cables are hidden nicely and there is a 120mm fan on a front and on the back of the case. Before I got that monster of a graphics card I didn't even have those and it was all fine (my old was GeForce 8800 GTS). There is also an additional 80mm fan on the side of the case (but I don't think it does much, as the airflow from it is blocked by the graphics card for the most part).

The RAM has some small heat spreaders on it (looks like this: http://regmedia.co.uk/2007/02/07/ocz_gold_1.jpg), but I don't think they actually do much, more like bling bling...

I have the boxed intel fan on my CPU if I remember correctly, it did a good job before.

Now to the graphics card. It's a 2 GPU on one card type of monster, with two 80mm fans on it, taking two slots, but in some fit of idiocy it doesn't have any openings on the back of the case, so all the air is staying inside of the case and has to be transported out by the case fans. I didn't notice this little fact, until my PC crashed for the first time when I first built it in (without the 2 case fans) - my CASE was almost too hot to touch it afterwards. The two case fans fixed the problem with it now barely reaching 60° on full throttle (with fans rarely going over 30% speed). One big problem: it's freaking loud. I don't want to know what those fans sound like on 50%. Seriously. The upside: I don't care about the volume of any other fans, so if anything is needed to get a better cooling during this experiment, it's not a problem.

Not sure about the current temps on the CPU, last time I checked (without 120mm fans and with 8800 GTS inside) it was about 45° when idling and about 55° on 100% usage. Not really sure on this, would have to take a sample again.

Anyway, where would I have to start now? If there is any meaningfull performance gain from this, I might as well let it run like this, but I actually just want to see how far I could go, when I upgrade the RAM and possibly the graphics card sometime next year.
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« Reply #68 on: October 21, 2009, 03:44:56 PM »

get 2x2GB ram sticks first off. Thats a given really, as you'll see a good performance upgrade there. then overclock your cpu if you have sufficient cooling headroom.

There are plenty of more detailed threads out there that will taylor your overclock to your cpu/mobo combo.. I recomend some good Crucial DDR2
http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=BL2KIT25664AR80A That stuff is the shit. I got it to around 1200Mhz without increasing the volts and it was 48pass stable with a 24hour prime blend run, thats a 50% oc without touching volts, and its more stable than stock!

Good ram will help you overclock your cpu and keep your ram speed at a similar pace Smiley
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« Reply #69 on: October 21, 2009, 03:59:01 PM »

Thanks for the advice and yeah, RAM upgrade seemed like the most obvious option here, but I didn't want to spend any money right now actually (my PC budget, small as it is, will probably go to Win 7 family pack sometime soon).

The thing is, I don't really want to overclock anything in the future, so how far something is overclockable won't be a criteria for my next purchase. I usually leave everything on stock speed, so I will probably just buy what gives me the most performance for little money at that particular time with the option of buying the top of the range thingy at that time, when it becomes obsolete and dirt cheap. It's just not a really good deal with the Q9550 right now, I was expecting much faster CPUs for the LGA775, but my mainboard will only be able to eat that one, according to specs.

For this one time, with the "dead end" that is my mainboard, overclocking the CPU seems the cheapest and the most profitable action in terms of performance gain. I'll certainly upgrade the RAM and possibly also the graphics card, but not until Q3/Q4 of 2010. I just wanted to see what would be possible with the current setup, if I'd go for getting more speed for no cost (or just costs of additional cooling devices).

From this thread I get the general direction, but should I stumble somewhere along the road, would you mind helping me? I'll get the info you asked for in the first post after I get home.
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« Reply #70 on: October 21, 2009, 04:11:26 PM »

I don't mind helping you, just be aware that it's not a quick process, it can take days/weeks to get a good stable overclock Smiley
Also, Fraps is a must for benching.. Most true benchers use 3dmark06 but to get a real world benchmark you just play your fav game and check out the fps

That is after a prime95 run of course.. you can balls up all your hardware otherwise

Also, how confident are you with a soldering iron?
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« Reply #71 on: October 21, 2009, 04:20:24 PM »

Also, how confident are you with a soldering iron?

I hope you're joking? I mean, I can do it, but I don't have a soldering iron here (or whatever it is called) and what would there be to solder? Cheesy

Will do all of the initial testing as soon as I get home. And having to reboot the PC constantly or running extensive tests is not a problem, I have another one right next to it, so I won't get bored.
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« Reply #72 on: October 21, 2009, 04:37:04 PM »

the soldering iron thing is to do with a 4850x2 vmod that makes it run as quick as a 4870x2 Cheesy

but unless your very confident, I wouldnt try it
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« Reply #73 on: October 21, 2009, 05:39:19 PM »

Ah, I see, no I wouldn't bother. The graphics card would be replaced eventually anyway and it's fast enough currently. Okay, so I checked BIOS, made sure everything which makes CPU under or overclock is turned off for now, a lot of voltage options in there as well, though I'm not sure about the FSB. I got the multiplicator (currently 9x) and a clock (currently 266) - which one would be the FSB here?

Downloading the software for the first temp test now.
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« Reply #74 on: October 21, 2009, 05:44:53 PM »

clock is your fsb
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