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« on: January 26, 2009, 11:42:45 AM »

IMHO there is still room for improvement when it comes to communication.
One example would be to communicate more clearly the positions of enemy sentries so that a) teammates can avoid them and b) players can attack them even when they haven't seen the SG themselves (even more important when going for an SG without a Über, e.g. as demo or soldier.

It happens, but it could happen more often. There is a lot of communication about spies (their disguise, haircolor, eating habits, sexual preference, whatever) but relaying info about a SG and its position doesn't happen that much (or I miss it all the times because me ears still ring from Rips laughter).

Which brings me to another question: Are there names/designations/labels for significant or typical spots on the various maps. Because I usually find it difficult to make myself clear when I try (often enough fishing for proper words and not finding them):

Teatime: "Guys, there's an enemy sentry on the ledge"
Teatime: "You know, the ledge above the entrances"
Teatime: "Opposite the cap, where you enter from the first part"
Teatime: "The ledge you can access by the ladder"
Teatime: "And the gun is aiming on the tunnel exit"
Teammate: "Teatime"
Teatime: "Yes?"
Teammate: "This map is already over"
Teatime: "Oh"

(BTW: Dustbowl, 2nd stage, 2nd cap)

So, what do you call typical spots on the standard maps? How could communicating spots/positions be improved?

(For a time I was thinking of a system where you would use a clockwork face (projected on the map floor) with 12 being the next cap and 6 being the starting point (spawn or main area entrance) which would at least provide general directions, but it's not very precise. Example Goldrush, 1st stage, 1st cap: Sentry in the left die building would be 1 o'clock, the sniper on the right 2 o'clock, the soldier on the right side ledge close to respawn 5 o'clock Example. On 1st stage 2nd cap your 6 o'clock would be the main tunnel exit. The usual sg spot right would be 2 o'clock, the pyro in the right corner 5 o'clock, the heavy left 10 o'clock)

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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 11:58:58 AM »

Problem is that spies don't kill YOU right away, you don't hold a grudge against a sentry in the same way you do a spy they are worth more mental points to kill (4 people chasing me around C on gravlepit proves this)

When you see a sentry you often die or kill the sentry, if non of those two you have been damaged so much that all you can think of is getting to a medic or healthpack.
But if people notice you (which they should) they'll see that you just got blown apart by a sentry and think twice about going there.

About locations, they all have names just not too scientific, it's often just "upstairs" "Over there" or "around the corner" (which in many cases is enough)
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 12:03:22 PM »

There have been various standard name efforts, but it never really catches on - it's more an inter-clan thing. I'm totally with you that it's a good thing and I usually appreciate knowing where the sg's are, esp. if I'm a spy or soldier.
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 12:30:53 PM »

I don't really have this problem. I used to play a lot of engie, so I know most of the standard positions and can tell from ie "on the bridge, left of the point" or whatever. There aren't that many places to stick a sentry, so often "left" and "right" will do, with the option of high and low.
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 12:39:19 PM »

We used to have some interesting location names in Goldrush 1 - the veranda, the loft, etc but it ended up distracting.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 01:01:25 PM »

We used to have some interesting location names in Goldrush 1 - the veranda, the loft, etc but it ended up distracting.

Loft still makes sense, but Veranda? Cheesy

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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2009, 01:54:21 PM »

I always use "[Standard location] [Left/Right] [High/Low] covering [Entrance]", or somesuch. If it isn't standard, I'll say what it covers, but standard places are pretty easy to remember in the attack/defend maps.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2009, 02:30:59 PM »

The place on gravelpit is known as "The Gasman"
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2009, 03:07:53 PM »

The Loft (c) DeadlyAvenger 2008-2009
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2009, 04:13:48 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2009, 04:16:10 PM »

What upsets me about sentries is that sometimes your team don't announce when one is spotted! lol

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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2009, 07:37:32 PM »

Nar! Send in Rippy and just look in the opposite direction of the corps gib Cheesy

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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2009, 08:20:42 PM »

Well, at least one can rely on spies to rely such crucial information to their team. I mean. that's part of their job description, right. Besides sapping stuff and backstabbing people.
Unless of course they are too busy sapping stuff and backstabbing people.
Wouldn't hurt, though, to do both ...
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2009, 12:40:56 AM »

Personally I consider calling the sentry location not at all in keeping with the spirit of the game Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2009, 12:53:12 AM »

Personally I consider calling the sentry location not at all in keeping with the spirit of the game Smiley
either your taking the piss or your an idiot..
the games about teamplay... calling the position of an sg is teamplay at its most raw..
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