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[mark]

Problem is that it takes time to playtest the new maps (even if they are already made), but they should at least try to make a custom pack (4 or 5 custom maps which are made stock).

I hate great heights, it is a spies worst enemy!

[Finaldeath]

Gasman, I think Fastlane is quite a fun map (and much better then most fair CP ones since points actively change hands easily) - it doesn't favour Engineers though All the Valve choices are fine, possibly barring Turbine which can be a bit of a problem with too many defensive players.

I'm sure they'll add some more in the next pack (maybe Freight!) - I for one still think Steel needs to go on Server 1, even if Turbine and Fastlane are not on there.

[mark]

Fastlane is on 1.
Freight needs to be in the map pack if they make one yeah!

[Gasman]

Fastlane is okay and I do enjoy the final cap battles immensely. But if you had the pick of the best custom maps, would you have picked it? I think not.

[mark]

When it came out it was pretty much the only decent one.

[Gasman]

Nah, sorry. 12 months ago I was young free and unattached TF2 wise. I skipped around the servers and found a lot of great custom maps. Never found Fastlane.

Fastlane is a good, tactical map with arguably an awesome defensive phase on the last cap. But on the whole, it's boring.

[mode_seven]

@mark, I actually had a few good goes at Spy near the beginning of great heights iirc.

[mark]

@mark, I actually had a few good goes at Spy near the beginning of great heights iirc.

But beyond that?
I always seem to find myself on lower ground than the enemy or in a bottleneck situation where there really isn't a way to shoot your way out.

[Mr Chug]

Great Heights was good. Swift is better. If they're going to include one more public map with the next pack, it should be both of those with Fastlane forcibly deleted from your PC.

[mark]

Great Heights was good. Swift is better. If they're going to include one more public map with the next pack, it should be both of those with Fastlane forcibly deleted from your PC.

Swift is very poorly optimized, they would still want people with "not so uber"-computers to be able to follow the gameplay.
Great Heights might be include but it would not be my first choice, I like hoodoo much better.

[Junta]

TBH, I was dissapointed with some of the complaints we had on the custom map night.

We need to do this again and be more constructive - and this means less sniping at the map and actually playing it. I'd prefer us to evaluate the map objectively and add our comments here on the forum. I'm not saying that you cant speak your mind, just that we spent more time moaning about treehut etc than we did playing it.  This is a general comment and I'd personally like our next evaluation to be much more open minded and play focussed. In hindsight, maybe alltalk on was a mistake too.

BTW, Criticising the map for its layout is fine, but do we really have to descend into sniping at the map creator and his motives for creating a map? A bit pointless in view of the evaluation.

Dave and I will book another custom map night and will start a new forum thread. In that thread we'd like to ask for maps that you'd like to TRY. We can't do them all in one sitting, and it would be nice to have a good list to work from.

Remember, the idea was to sneak a custom map onto server 1 to freshen things up a bit. If we can't agree on a map then you're just going to be stuck with stock maps on server 1. Your call.